Morris Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 that shower is going to ruin lga's 80f low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Rjay said: Didn't know that. I always learn something from you. They need to use a different location. They should use the middle of Times Square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Looks like LGA avoided dipping below 80 with the little shower that passed by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, pazzo83 said: Looks like LGA avoided dipping below 80 with the little shower that passed by. the wx day ends at 1 because of dst. currently 81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, forkyfork said: the wx day ends at 1 because of dst. currently 81 Yeah, it's gonna be close, they've hit 81 a couple times in the past hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Still 87 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Will LGA's 80 hold for 9 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Yep - 101/80 for the day for LGA. Damn. Not many June days avg 90+ around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 3 hours ago, pazzo83 said: Yep - 101/80 for the day for LGA. Damn. Not many June days avg 90+ around here. Yesterday was the earliest on record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 6 hours ago, Morris said: Is it really UHI though if the 98 degree contour extended northwest to Rockland county? That whole Northeast tip of NJ is actually really green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I would think the UHI influence extends a bit beyond its immediately defined local. Considering Newark/Elizabeth/Jersey City/NYC are in such close proximity, with minimal moderation from the rivers/bays. Anyway, I'm glad that's over. 68 and overcast with a light northwest wind currently. Could use some rain, for my newly seeded areas, but lush greenery remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Nice "cold front". 76/66. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 34 minutes ago, NortheastPAWx said: Nice "cold front". 76/66. Feels much better than yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 The New GFS is going for the next 90 this Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Sun/Mon could be sneaky hot days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Sun/Mon could be sneaky hot days... And better chances for more widespread convection with the moist flow around the WAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Sundog said: Is it really UHI though if the 98 degree contour extended northwest to Rockland county? That whole Northeast tip of NJ is actually really green. Good point. All of Northern Nassau and Northern Suffolk were in the 95 to 98 degree range yesterday, and these areas are wooded hills and in some cases farmland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, psv88 said: Good point. All of Northern Nassau and Northern Suffolk were in the 95 to 98 degree range yesterday, and these areas are wooded hills and in some cases farmland. The important point is that both the urban and less developed areas experienced record warmth the last few days. It's just that the records are higher in the city due to all the concrete and steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 14 hours ago, uncle W said: it's a park...it's supposed to be cooler in the summer...That's why people go to the park when its hot out...they should move the thermometer shelter to a more open space... I will bet more open sections of the park where the ASOS should be located were probably close to 98-99 yesterday. Central Park always used to run within a degree or two of Newark before they moved the instruments into the shade instead of the open where the rules for temperature measurement require. The ASOS should not be located anywhere near trees blocking the sunlight. Notice how the BNL thermometer while in the pine barrens is located in a clearing. BNL/OKX NYC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, bluewave said: I will bet more open sections of the park where the ASOS should be located were probably close to 98-99 yesterday. Central Park always used to run within a degree or two of Newark before they moved the instruments into the shade instead of the open where the rules for temperature measurement require. The ASOS should not be located anywhere near trees blocking the sunlight. Notice how the BNL thermometer while in the pine barrens is located in a clearing. BNL/OKX NYC It really pisses me off because those are the readings the media are using. pretty steamy in the city today. Glad I missed the heat wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Sundog said: Is it really UHI though if the 98 degree contour extended northwest to Rockland county? That whole Northeast tip of NJ is actually really green. Once you get North of Paramus in Bergen County it's quite rural. So is the area along the Palisades Parkway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 40 minutes ago, bluewave said: The important point is that both the urban and less developed areas experienced record warmth the last few days. It's just that the records are higher in the city due to all the concrete and steel. That's true. I think one of the reasons my neighborhood get so hot is the development around Commack. I live right in the middle of the main shopping areas in "downtown". I radiate well in the winter but bake in the summer. I'm also in a valley between dix hills to the south and west and smith town to the east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 33 minutes ago, bluewave said: I will bet more open sections of the park where the ASOS should be located were probably close to 98-99 yesterday. Central Park always used to run within a degree or two of Newark before they moved the instruments into the shade instead of the open where the rules for temperature measurement require. The ASOS should not be located anywhere near trees blocking the sunlight. Notice how the BNL thermometer while in the pine barrens is located in a clearing. BNL/OKX NYC Yes correct...The problem isnt because the station is in a park...As you mentioned the problem is foliage shadeing the sensor...The instruments are supposed to have a clear view of the sky with no overhead obstructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 20 minutes ago, doncat said: Yes correct...The problem isnt because the station is in a park...As you mentioned the problem is foliage shadeing the sensor...The instruments are supposed to have a clear view of the sky with no overhead obstructions. the shelter should not be shaded at any time of the day...the thermometer shelters now days are much smaller than the box shelters that were maned by humans...I'd rather have a big box shelter than a radiation shield they use today...I had mine on my roof when I lived in Brooklyn and it was reliable...My country house has to many trees for a place that gets sunshine all the time...It got pretty hot up there already...in 1977 it hit 100 in my area... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 So can't someone fix the issue in central park? We have NWS people on here, don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 5 hours ago, Sundog said: Is it really UHI though if the 98 degree contour extended northwest to Rockland county? That whole Northeast tip of NJ is actually really green. Up through parts of Rockland county typically gets pretty hot, at least maps usually depict that. Mainly on a corridor along the Hudson, sometimes extending much further north. I think that's more based on geography. Maybe down sloping winds with elevation takes a steep drop along the Hudson on both sides, plus being away from the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 49 minutes ago, doncat said: Yes correct...The problem isnt because the station is in a park...As you mentioned the problem is foliage shadeing the sensor...The instruments are supposed to have a clear view of the sky with no overhead obstructions. A lot of times the Park temp will be close to the airports and some time in mid afternoon they level off while everyone else keeps climbing into late afternoon/evening. I think the sun angle gets below the trees later in the day and it effectively becomes like a mostly cloudy day there. Meanwhile that June sun keeps baking the massive open space of the airports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, pazzo83 said: So can't someone fix the issue in central park? We have NWS people on here, don't we? Agree-maybe someone can comment on it....at least trim back the growth some. That would be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: Agree-maybe someone can comment on it....at least trim back the growth some. That would be a start. I mean - I'll volunteer to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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