Hoosier Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 Extrapolating the cone would bring the tropical remnants into part of the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 Pretty decent t'storm popped up overhead. Fairly frequent lightning with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 6 hours ago, Jonger said: Top shelf weather today. Mid 60's and off and on showers. lol. Meanwhile, made it to 80*F here in the valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 22 minutes ago, Powerball said: lol. Meanwhile, made it to 80*F here in the valley. It was 78 in Lansing, so I don't know what Jonger is talking about. 24 minutes ago, Powerball said: Pretty decent t'storm popped up overhead. Fairly frequent lightning with it. Yeah been watching that from here, pretty spectacular lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 I will say, one thing I love about this time of year (thanks to the high sun angle) is how temps falling into the 60s after a rain shower / t'storm doesn't even feel all that cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Had a few nice hailers in the area earlier today. A couple 1" diameter hail reports a little to the south. Several other smaller cells dropped some small hail as well. Stayed dry here, but some decent gusts from a dying shower knocked back temps several degrees in the late afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 them 50's just north of me look tasty! 4 more months and that will be the norm past 4 days have really showcased the unsettledness around with beautiful skies. Started this AM at the beach with sun, quickly fall arrived - 10/10 day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 down to 60.. can we get in to the 50's Hopefully done bottoming out at 58 degrees - get this rain out for a beautiful evening of Weber Kettle Grill action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Big gradient between MKE and I-80/southward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Nice dual boundary presentation on LOT radar. Not able to loop images right now but one looks like outflow and the other looks like a lake breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Last two days have produced heavy rates with these pop up showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Yet again, DTW managed to eek out an 80*F day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Powerball said: Yet again, DTW managed to eek out an 80*F day. It's no surprise. It has been several years now since I have pointed out DTW always being a warm spot in the region during afternoons (especially in summer) often behind only YIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Today ended up surprisingly warm. MLI topped out at 91, making for the 10th 90+ day this month, and 11th on the year. Hit 89 here. Had a brief shower that deposited 0.04". Temp has already dropped back over 15 degrees from earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 47 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: It's no surprise. It has been several years now since I have pointed out DTW always being a warm spot in the region during afternoons (especially in summer) often behind only YIP. While I understand what you're getting at, today's high DTW wasn't much different from the surrounding areas (DET made it to 79°F as well) If anything, modeled highs and DTX's expectations were too low, between the downsloping and cloud cover being less extensive than projected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, Powerball said: While I understand what you're getting at, today's high DTW wasn't much different from the surrounding areas (DET made it to 79°F as well) If anything, modeled highs and DTX's expectations were too low, between the downsloping and cloud cover being less extensive than projected. DET's high was 77. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: It's no surprise. It has been several years now since I have pointed out DTW always being a warm spot in the region during afternoons (especially in summer) often behind only YIP. Yeah and it is also the furthest south main observing site in the area, so it makes complete sense why it would be warmer than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 A crisp 46 for a low this morning. Could see my breath outside. Should top out around 70 with lots of sun... perfect. The countdown to Autumn starts today! pics yesterday just outside Big Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Stebo said: Yeah and it is also the furthest south main observing site in the area, so it makes complete sense why it would be warmer than most. I'm referring to all of SE MI not just the 3 first order sites. DTW is often warmer than Monroe and Toledo (TOL is a first order station as well). I have studied 140 years of climate data for the region. DTW has been official since 1966, and the disparity between there and numerous other stations in the immediate metro area and very close was never there before. And DTW is still a semi rural area. I drive by the south end of DTW 10 times a week and it is always colder. It does not matter rain, snow, sun, gray, winter, summer, etc. ALWAYS. Idk if the thermometer used to be there or not before it was moved further north on the property. And I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the thermometer at DTW. Just stating facts. DET was always a good 2 degrees warmer, now always 1-1.5 degrees colder (talking monthly mean temps). I understand downsloping and I understand east winds. But I'm sure these things existed decades ago too. The May 2017 climate summary for SEMI has 48 sites listed. Of those 48, just ONE had a higher mean temp than DTW. And it was, surprise surprise, YIP. And 16 of those 48 sites were in the bottom 2 counties. In fact most Lenawee and Monroe sites were 1.5 to 2.5 degrees colder than DTW to the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Low of 47.4 in my backyard. Livingston Airport hit 48.0. Pretty good for the first day of summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Temps look cool to comfortable this weekend into next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 7 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: I'm referring to all of SE MI not just the 3 first order sites. DTW is often warmer than Monroe and Toledo (TOL is a first order station as well). I have studied 140 years of climate data for the region. DTW has been official since 1966, and the disparity between there and numerous other stations in the immediate metro area and very close was never there before. And DTW is still a semi rural area. I drive by the south end of DTW 10 times a week and it is always colder. It does not matter rain, snow, sun, gray, winter, summer, etc. ALWAYS. Idk if the thermometer used to be there or not before it was moved further north on the property. And I'm not saying there is anything wrong with the thermometer at DTW. Just stating facts. DET was always a good 2 degrees warmer, now always 1-1.5 degrees colder (talking monthly mean temps). I understand downsloping and I understand east winds. But I'm sure these things existed decades ago too. The May 2017 climate summary for SEMI has 48 sites listed. Of those 48, just ONE had a higher mean temp than DTW. And it was, surprise surprise, YIP. And 16 of those 48 sites were in the bottom 2 counties. In fact most Lenawee and Monroe sites were 1.5 to 2.5 degrees colder than DTW to the north. Monroe is on the water, and DTW actually closely matches YIP which is 7 miles away. DET is also close to the water comparatively to DTW. I don't know why this is such a big deal that DTW is warmer but we have this discussion every year it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoof Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 zzzzz all year here, a couple garden variety tstorms, no fun, maybe if a death ridge sets up in the SE like a lot of models are showing later in the month we can get some ring of fire action going on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Stebo said: Monroe is on the water, and DTW actually closely matches YIP which is 7 miles away. DET is also close to the water comparatively to DTW. I don't know why this is such a big deal that DTW is warmer but we have this discussion every year it seems. What would explain DET being warmer than DTW in the past? Urbanization changes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Just now, Hoosier said: What would explain DET being warmer than DTW in the past? Urbanization changes? Yes, City Airport is surrounded by less housing and manufacturing now than ever before. Their roles have reversed essentially. The gap is larger now though because of proximity to the lakes, DET still had lake influence even when the area was heavily populated. So the gap widening makes complete logical sense when you add in factors of location, proximity to the lakes and building density. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Stebo said: Yes, City Airport is surrounded by less housing and manufacturing now than ever before. Their roles have reversed essentially. The gap is larger now though because of proximity to the lakes, DET still had lake influence even when the area was heavily populated. So the gap widening makes complete logical sense when you add in factors of location, proximity to the lakes and building density. Yes, fair point as far as the bolded. I was going to mention that. Much of the land around DET, especially to the west and south of it, has reverted back to prairie / borderline forest due to depopulation since the 1960s. People seem to forget, Detroit proper was home to around 2 million people (think Philadelphia-type population density) in its prime and now only has just over 600,000 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Clouds and showers/thunderstorms kept us around 70 degrees all day. Several brief showers here added up to about 0.20". Meanwhile, eastern Nebraska reached the upper 90s. Tonight/tomorrow, the front surges north, so we'll get a pretty warm day. The potential Thursday night heavy rain event has shifted up into Wisconsin. There should still be a line of storms pushing south through Iowa along the cold front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 8 hours ago, michsnowfreak said: Temps look cool to comfortable this weekend into next week! It will be nice to skip a the heat during the rest of June. Heading up to Grayling to camp this weekend, I'm happy to see the upper 60's. Hoping to not need the AC at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 0.06" from a passing shower earlier. Monthly total up to 1.56". Had a really heavy downpour at work early this afternoon. Just gushed for a few minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Models have really underplayed the convection this morning in northern Iowa. The WPC just issued a meso precip discussion for the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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