melonknee Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Just now, Superstorm93 said: That's the one. I checked that days outlook a few minutes ago, it seems Atlanta was just barely outside of the high risk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherextreme Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Latest from Spann Potentially Dangerous Situation Tomorrow NO ISSUES TODAY: About the only problem today is dense fog this morning over parts of Central and South Alabama… that will dissipate by mid morning, and the day will be sunny and warm with a high in the low 80s. Clouds move in tonight, and showers and storms are possible as early as 4:00 a.m. tomorrow as moist air rapidly moves northward. SPC has much of the state in a severe weather risk for this activity in their “Day One” outlook, which runs through 7am tomorrow. For North/Central Alabama, the main risk with the early morning storms will most likely come from hail and strong winds, highest tornado threat early tomorrow will be over Southwest Alabama. TOMORROW: A surface low will be south of St. Louis, supported by a strong upper trough (the last in the series with this “wave train”) with strong wind fields. The large scale pattern is certainly favorable for severe weather across Alabama, but the small scale features will determine the magnitude of the event. Instability values will rise rapidly during the day, and surface based CAPE values will be in the 3,000 to 4,000 j/kg range by afternoon, making for a “power keg” type atmosphere as the spring storm system approaches. Forecast shear profiles favor severe storms as well; SPC has now put parts of East and South Alabama in a “moderate” risk, with an “enhanced risk” for much of the rest of the state. It is important not to get too hung up in risk areas and lines on these maps; remember storms don’t know anything about those lines and terms. This is simply a guideline to let you know where the greatest risk will be. Could there be an upgrade to a high risk in later outlooks today? Yes, but it just isn’t that important. Just be ready one way or another. PLACEMENT: While all of Alabama has a severe weather risk tomorrow, the highest tornado potential will come from roughly I-65 east, or over the eastern half of the state. This is where the best combination of lift, instability, and shear will be found. Understand a tornado is certainly possible over West Alabama, but the odds are a bit lower there. TIMING: Best thing we can say for now is that we expect multiple waves of thunderstorms from 4:00 a.m. until 7:00 p.m. The highest threat of tornadoes will come during the afternoon/evening hours, during the peak of the daytime heating process. More than likely, there will be lull in the action during the midday hours, but even then a few severe storms will be possible. We will need to be vigilant through the entire day. THREATS: All modes of severe weather will be possible tomorrow, including large hail, damaging straight line winds, and tornadoes. A few long track, strong/violent tornadoes are possible, especially in the “enhanced” and “moderate” risk areas defined by SPC on the map above. RAIN: Rain amounts around one inch are likely; no flooding issues are expected. CALL TO ACTION: Be sure you have a way of getting warnings; a NOAA Weather Radio is the baseline, and a good smart phone app is the other tier. Identify the safe place in your home, and be sure everyone knows where it is. And, in that safe place have helmets for everyone, along with hard sole shoes and preferably a portable airhorn in case you need help. Be sure you have the ABC 33/40 app on your phone so you can watch our live severe weather coverage, if needed: iOS version Android verson IMPORTANT: Long time readers know this is a “no hype” zone. You will hear lots of crazy things over the next 24 hours across social media platforms and other sources, but there is no need to be alarmed or overly anxious about this. This is spring in Alabama; we have severe weather threats. It is normal, and we are good at being prepared and ready. Just have a way of hearing warnings, have a plan, and we will get through this just fine. And, there is always the chance it will be a “bust”…. a day when storms aren’t as widespread or dangerous as forecast. Keep an eye on the blog for updates today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Just now, melonknee said: That's the one. I checked that days outlook a few minutes ago, it seems Atlanta was just barely outside of the high risk! I mean it was nine years ago (God I'm getting old) but yeah, the outlook wasn't very good for that one. Thankfully we've had tremendous advancements since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melonknee Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Superstorm93 said: I mean it was nine years ago (God I'm getting old) but yeah, the outlook wasn't very good for that one. Thankfully we've had tremendous advancements since then. I agree. One of the earliest high risks covered all of Alabama and Georgia if I'm remembering the placement correctly. 20 years brings a lot of advancements in forecasting! I'm excited to see what the forecasts are going to look like in 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowless in Carrollton Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 23 minutes ago, Superstorm93 said: I mean it was nine years ago (God I'm getting old) but yeah, the outlook wasn't very good for that one. Thankfully we've had tremendous advancements since then. You are 22 and you are getting old ? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a5ehren Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I can't believe I'm about to say this, but: I can't wait for the 18Z NAM to run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Very ominous.http://www.weather.gov/bmx/mmbrief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 I've got bad news. KMOB, KMXX, MEOX and KVAX radars are down. Hoping that KMOB, KMXX and KEOX will be up by tomorrow. KVAX, on the other hand, will likely be down through tomorrow. Worse than January 22, 2017. EDIT: KVAX is out of commission for who knows how long. Just like on January 22, 2017, we have a major radar hole. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted April 4, 2017 Author Share Posted April 4, 2017 Extremely ominous graphic from Bmx. Never seen them this worried in a long time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, MattPetrulli said: Extremely ominous graphic from Bmx. Never seen them this worried in a long time..\ Holy cow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 The WRF NMMB looks absolutely terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dehrski Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, Natester said: I've got bad news. KMOB, KMXX, MEOX and KVAX radars are down. Hoping that KMOB, KMXX and KEOX will be up by tomorrow. KVAX, on the other hand, will likely be down through tomorrow. Worse than January 22, 2017. http://radar2pub.ncep.noaa.gov/ If anyone wanted to check radar statuses, this is a good bookmark. Click on the radar site for more info! Definitely looks like KMOB, KMXX, and KEOX will be back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Somebody let Spann know its " Powderkeg)!!!!! That's two write ups I've seen it . I'm not a teacher, but don't know why it bothers me, but it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshetley Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 The GSP weather office is calling the NAM's cool stable air solution over our CWA an outlier, meaning they think things become unstable from noon onward. They think the storms start around 1pm from around Anderson to Chester to the south at first, but slowly spreading north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Martin Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Here is a piece of the Area Forecast Discussion from the NWS in Birmingham... Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Birmingham AL 1249 PM CDT Tue Apr 4 2017 .UPDATE... For 18Z Aviation. && .SHORT TERM... ...Severe weather outbreak possible Wednesday... A stalled front to our south will begin to return northward tonight as a classic 500 mb trough takes shape over the Plains. A surface low should intensify and track from eastern Oklahoma tonight toward the Ohio Valley on Wednesday, eventually putting Alabama in the warm sector. Before that occurs, a warm front will move inland and accelerate northward early Wednesday morning across the forecast area. Scattered storms are expected to develop around 4 AM as warm/moisture advection occurs near the warm front. Additional storms could also form along a trailing confluence band which may extend from central Alabama to the southwest. With MLCAPE possibly as high as 2500 J/kg in the warm sector and strong wind shear already in place through the entire column, any surface-based storms could produce long-track tornadoes. It is unclear how widespread this activity will be and if storms will become more organized. This is an important question we cannot answer at this time, but the morning activity will greatly impact what happens later in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, jshetley said: The GSP weather office is calling the NAM's cool stable air solution over our CWA an outlier, meaning they think things become unstable from noon onward. They think the storms start around 1pm from around Anderson to Chester to the south at first, but slowly spreading north. TWC just showed their " future radar" it had storms firing around 10-11 AM along the warm front along the Ga/SC border and then heading NE. They said even those could rotate. The rest of the day for our area, really doesn't look too scary, based on what that showed, plus the main line gets here at midnight to 2AM timeframe! Torcon of 5 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jshetley Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Just now, mackerel_sky said: TWC just showed their " future radar" it had storms firing around 10-11 AM along the warm front along the Ga/SC border and then heading NE. They said even those could rotate. The rest of the day for our area, really doesn't look too scary, based on what that showed, plus the main line gets here at midnight to 2AM timeframe! Torcon of 5 though I'm not sure if that timing will help a lot in this case though. This system is going to be strong and a 50KT low level jet during the passage of that line is hard to ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Area Forecast Discussion National Weather Service Peachtree City GA 352 PM EDT Tue Apr 4 2017 .SHORT TERM /Tonight through Wednesday Night/... ...Significant Severe Weather Outbreak Expected on Wednesday... While today`s warm and sunny weather provided a brief respite from the stormy weather, this break will be coming to an abrupt end on Wednesday. A strong storm system currently over the Plains will bring widespread thunderstorms to the CWA on Wednesday, many of which will become severe. By early Wednesday morning a warm front will be rapidly moving northward into the area ushering in Gulf moisture. The first thunderstorms of the day are expected to form along this northward- advancing warm front during the morning hours. Any thunderstorms that form during this time frame may become severe. Large hail will be possible with any elevated activity north of the front while damaging winds and tornadoes would be possible with thunderstorms forming along and just south of the warm front in the warm sector. As we approach midday into the early afternoon, additional widespread thunderstorm development is expected across the CWA with a strong upper jet and associated divergence aloft as well as ample instability in place across the warm sector. Forecast SBCAPE values in the 2000-3000 J/kg range are anticipated, which if realized will provide plenty of fuel for these rapidly developing thunderstorms. Impressive shear (for example, >50 knots of 0-6km bulk shear) will also be in place. All of this is to say that an appreciable severe thunderstorm outbreak is expected with tornadoes, damaging winds, and large hail all increasingly likely. The possibility for strong/long-track tornadoes will exist with any discrete supercells that form. With such a moist environment in place, heavy rainfall can also be expected in these thunderstorms. At this point, expected rainfall totals are not high enough to warrant widespread flooding concerns, but localized issues will be possible. See the hydrology section below for further details. The threat for severe thunderstorms will continue ahead of the approaching cold front through the evening. As the cold front finally begins to clear parts of the area mid-to-late evening, the severe threat will end from west to east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 The WRF NMMB looks absolutely terrifying. Jesus, that monster in N AL goes right through Huntsville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherextreme Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 NWS Birmingham briefing https://www.pscp.tv/w/1OwxWPVowDWKQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayman Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 14 minutes ago, SmokeEater said: Jesus, that monster in N AL goes right through Huntsville. Oh, it's just south of Huntsville, which is more central portions of Madison County. However, the some of the helicity tracks come very close to where my parents reside on the AL/GA stateline though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Penland Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 1 hour ago, jshetley said: The GSP weather office is calling the NAM's cool stable air solution over our CWA an outlier, meaning they think things become unstable from noon onward. They think the storms start around 1pm from around Anderson to Chester to the south at first, but slowly spreading north. Yeah I have to agree with them. It seems to be developing some sort of in-situ CAD which looks very odd given the overall set-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 Update on KMXX and KVAX: NOUS64 KBMX 042033 FTMMXX Message Date: Apr 04 2017 20:33:48 KMXX will be down until Thursday, April 6th, as technicians wait for replacement parts. Radar will return to service if parts arrive sooner. NOUS62 KJAX 041930 FTMVAX MESSAGE DATE: APR 4 2017 19:29:40 KVAX 88D WEATHER RADAR REMAINS DOWN UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. RETURN TO SERVICE UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME. EDIT: KEOX is back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 18z 3km NAM ups the ceiling even further, if you take this run verbatim. TrueWeather Tornado Index with Updraft Helicity. Anything above .5 on this scale would indicate violent tornadoes. This is NOT STP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Tot Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 It seems like all the classic Dixie Alley sweet spots are in the line of fire tomorrow... Huntsville, Birmingham, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguy3107 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 18z NAM 500 mb vorticity map. Yowzaa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm93 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 #1 Analog from last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguy3107 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 18 minutes ago, Superstorm93 said: #1 Analog from last night Remember it well, that was the year of the Dunwoody, Ga tornado that tore through the northern part of metro Atlanta. I toured the storm damage the next day and it was a real mess........F2 if I remember correctly. That was a 11PM to 2 AM event for us in north Georgia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audioguy3107 Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 NAM forecast sounding for FFC around 6 - 7 PM. Pretty classic look. Note the sounding "hazard type".....PDS Tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherextreme Posted April 4, 2017 Share Posted April 4, 2017 This was actually quite funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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