OceanStWx Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 33 minutes ago, tamarack said: Great! I'm not that familiar with all the cultivars. However, PWM has probably the most well-developed and thorough urban forestry program in the state, so their recommendations should be on target. My preference in red maple color is bright red with a hint of burgundy tone. The best and most reliable exemplar I've seen is about halfway up Sand Hill on Northern Avenue in Augusta. In autumn 2005, the worst year for color in my memory, that tree had the only true red that I saw. This true turns 7-10 days later than its neighbors, and often holds good color into early November. I learned quite a bit so far. There is a cultivar Autumn Blaze that I think peaks around late September, while October Glory and Autumn Sunset are closer to the second week of October. And I think those are all females. We don't really have the same restrictions are most street trees because of the lack of overhead wires, but I agree a nice vibrant red in the fall would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I want to say I planted 2 Red Sunset Maples about 8 years ago. Both are doing great and are about 15' tall now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 THIS , when i bought my current home i had nothing but crabgrass and grubs, literally from this spring (still lookslike this)Looks great, but u didn't build a house on a pile of granite. We will never have a lawn like that.Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 14 hours ago, Baroclinic Zone said: I want to say I planted 2 Red Sunset Maples about 8 years ago. Both are doing great and are about 15' tall now. How tall were they when you planted them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&P Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 10 hours ago, Lava Rock said: Looks great, but u didn't build a house on a pile of granite. We will never have a lawn like that. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk just offering options is all. nothin more. i had a contractor dump very sandy/rocky soil over a 1/3 of the yard when i had to replace my septic. that portion of the lawn took some time to recover. have you had your soil tested? how much top soil do you have? GLTY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 Greenest lawns have ever been in my 17 years here. All summer it's looked like May. Wet summer FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 just offering options is all. nothin more. i had a contractor dump very sandy/rocky soil over a 1/3 of the yard when i had to replace my septic. that portion of the lawn took some time to recover. have you had your soil tested? how much top soil do you have? GLTYThanks. Yes, soil was tested last year and was slightly acidic. Topsoil in pic is quite thin hence why the quote reflects 2-3" in spots. Your lawn looks great. Wish I had that. What kind of grass seed did u use?Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, IrishRob17 said: How tall were they when you planted them? 8-10'. I had the nursery I bought them from, deliver them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 New hydroseed area is toast Compare july 2 to now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Baroclinic Zone said: 8-10'. I had the nursery I bought them from, deliver them. Good deal. Seven years ago I planted a sugar maple, red maple, and river birch, they were 18-24" tall and are up to about 10-12' now. I had them protected in 4' tubes which worked great until they grew just above the top and the deer managed to chew the leaders on all three at various points one winter. I had to rig up a bit of an extension to protect the branch that took over as each leader and now thankfully they are doing well overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Here they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Anyone have sone tips on distinguishing between norway and sugar maple seedlings? I'm going to transplant and pot a handful of them, but I can do without the invasives. I look for the rounded node tips for the larger sugar leaves, but it's difficult to tell on the tiny 2-4" tall ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, dendrite said: Anyone have sone tips on distinguishing between norway and sugar maple seedlings? I'm going to transplant and pot a handful of them, but I can do without the invasives. I look for the rounded node tips for the larger sugar leaves, but it's difficult to tell on the tiny 2-4" tall ones. snap off a leaf. norway maples have white milky sap and sugar maples don't. what a tree weenie you've turned into, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 31 minutes ago, eekuasepinniW said: snap off a leaf. norway maples have white milky sap and sugar maples don't. what a tree weenie you've turned into, btw. Trying different methods for growing sugar maples. Gonna try an air layering this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&P Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 On 8/3/2017 at 7:39 AM, Lava Rock said: Thanks. Yes, soil was tested last year and was slightly acidic. Topsoil in pic is quite thin hence why the quote reflects 2-3" in spots. Your lawn looks great. Wish I had that. What kind of grass seed did u use? Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk thanks, i sometimes think i put too much time into it, i know my wife does URI #2 which is developed for local condition not sure how it would do up there https://www.turfmagazine.com/lawn-care/uris-projects-in-progress/ https://www.neseed.com/Buy-10lb-URI-No-2-Improved-Grass-Seed-p/72350.htm http://hardwaredistributors.com/uri-2-lawn-seed-mix-25lb.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&P Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 On 8/3/2017 at 0:00 PM, Lava Rock said: New hydroseed area is toast Compare july 2 to now: if you haven't had a lot of rain which i think you mentioned, it could just be dormant, if so it will come back when when it rains again and lower sun angles , just need to control weeds / insects and let what is there to establish itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 40 minutes ago, S&P said: if you haven't had a lot of rain which i think you mentioned, it could just be dormant, if so it will come back when when it rains again and lower sun angles , just need to control weeds / insects and let what is there to establish itself My concern is the roots drying out as well since it was newly seeded this Spring and they weren't able to root deep enough. He should notice in a few weeks if the lawn is truly toast once we get those cool nights ans AM dews that wake the lawns up. I despise Spring seeding if you don't have the irrigation to keep it watered adequately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 My concern is the roots drying out as well since it was newly seeded this Spring and they weren't able to root deep enough. He should notice in a few weeks if the lawn is truly toast once we get those cool nights ans AM dews that wake the lawns up. I despise Spring seeding if you don't have the irrigation to keep it watered adequately.Either way, I'm bringing in more loam and going to put down some high quality KBG. Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 17 hours ago, eekuasepinniW said: snap off a leaf. norway maples have white milky sap and sugar maples don't. what a tree weenie you've turned into, btw. I've ripped off quite a few leaves and none showed white milky sap. Here's some leaves from varius trees around the yard. I suspect some red, sugar, and norway in these pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Weeding for the MFL. Solid 5hrs of it. 99% of it crabgrass or a variant of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, dendrite said: I've ripped off quite a few leaves and none showed white milky sap. Here's some leaves from varius trees around the yard. I suspect some red, sugar, and norway in these pics? Lots of red maple, sugar maples and maples tamarack will have to identify. #5 and #6 don't look pointy enough to be norway maples, and if there was no sap, then you're safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 3 hours ago, eekuasepinniW said: Lots of red maple, sugar maples and maples tamarack will have to identify. #5 and #6 don't look pointy enough to be norway maples, and if there was no sap, then you're safe. I *think* a lot of those are red? I was sorta looking for the rounded base of the leaf with 3 lobes. 5 and 6 came from the same tree and I suspected Norway. Which ones are you leaning sugar on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 59 minutes ago, dendrite said: I *think* a lot of those are red? I was sorta looking for the rounded base of the leaf with 3 lobes. 5 and 6 came from the same tree and I suspected Norway. Which ones are you leaning sugar on? 5/6 looks sugary to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Anybody else notice that the Norwegian maples are turning brown? Almost like a fungus or something. I noticed quite a bit with damaged leaves. Good riddance to those trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 34 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Anybody else notice that the Norwegian maples are turning brown? Almost like a fungus or something. I noticed quite a bit with damaged leaves. Good riddance to those trees. Completely brown or tar spots? I've read they're more prone to the tar spot fungi than other maples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 8 hours ago, dendrite said: Completely brown or tar spots? I've read they're more prone to the tar spot fungi than other maples. Like half the most of the leaves brown and falling off. I've never seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Like half the most of the leaves brown and falling off. I've never seen that. lack of rain will do that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said: lack of rain will do that as well. It's definitely not that. I had literally 10X the amount from last July and I never noticed it last year. Also is unique to that species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 20 hours ago, Baroclinic Zone said: Weeding for the MFL. Solid 5hrs of it. 99% of it crabgrass or a variant of it. Roundup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 36 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: Roundup Tried that. It didn't do ****. Had the electric spray nozzle and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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