WarrenCtyWx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, RedSky said: IP/SN mix 75/25% Quakertown is getting sand blasted Temp continues to drop 24.8F Yeah. I noticed that the mix line seems to be somewhat collapsing south in the Lehigh Valley area according that radar. Could be encouraging. Edit: Seems to have shifted south slightly. "Collapsing" is too strong of a description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Just flipped almost instantly back to heavy blinding snow. Snowing sideways and very windy. Flakes the size of silver dollars! Easily near blizzard to blizzard conditions right now. Absolutely epic! Just kidding, driving sleetstorm here. Only thing epic is this bust. Makes 2001 look like kid stuff. forecasters at least realized 2001 was busting and adjusted accordingly. this storm all of the pros are just acting like nothing is wrong. no need to cancel blizzard warnings for ice storm warnings. no need to update discussion since our last one was completely wrong. just a bunch of hand sitting and praying it magically turns back to snow it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm usually a very big fan of our nws and they typically do an outstanding job but they have been awful for this storm, absolutely awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, penndotguy said: Gotta love 69 news they are not giving up on there snow map going down with the ship Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I respect Ed Hanna, but they put out lousy forecasts all the time. Steve D on twitter is saying that if the sleet doesn't switch back with the incoming heavy moisture, then it will safely be a bust. I'm hesitant to call bust because I'm hoping we can dynamically cool a bit to push the line south, but I don't know. Getting blasted with sleet here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBasile Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The streets are clear here. Have some blades of grass poking through. Just surpassed a half inch of rain on the day. The barometer is at 1003.7 mb. The temp is at 31.6F. Had a wind gust to 23 MPH. Exciting stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 50 50 rain and sleet mix and under a blizzard warning. what a horrible horrible forecast and absolutely embarrassing there has been no update. rain still isn't even in my forecast. it's like they can't even look out the window... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Only thing epic is this bust. Makes 2001 look like kid stuff. I wouldn't go that far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 My complaints with this winter event are this currently-ok it busted big these things happen and I am now getting a sleet storm but the QPF is also failing biggly, light to moderate sleet and the storm is over in 5 hours nowhere close to 2.0" QPF is going to fall. 24.6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Still getting moderate FZRA w/some pingers and rimmed flakes mixed in. Temp almost down to 27F. Have about 2.5" of compacted cement so far. The interesting thing is that the rain component must be pretty warm because I'm not seeing much of an ice coating on things yet but it's definitely rain in there and below freezing outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Iceman said: 50 50 rain and sleet mix and under a blizzard warning. what a horrible horrible forecast and absolutely embarrassing there has been no update. rain still isn't even in my forecast. it's like they can't even look out the window... You need to take a step back. Again these posts are why mets never come in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, The Iceman said: 50 50 rain and sleet mix and under a blizzard warning. what a horrible horrible forecast and absolutely embarrassing there has been no update. rain still isn't even in my forecast. it's like they can't even look out the window... I feel bad for you man. You were probably expecting over a foot. However, try to lighten up on all the gloom and doom. You'll make yourself feel worse than you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penndotguy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I respect Ed Hanna, but they put out lousy forecasts all the time. Steve D on twitter is saying that if the sleet doesn't switch back with the incoming heavy moisture, then it will safely be a bust. I'm hesitant to call bust because I'm hoping we can dynamically cool a bit to push the line south, but I don't know. Getting blasted with sleet here.I have actually gone back to moderate with a little sleet mixed Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penndotguy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I have actually gone back to moderate with a little sleet mixed Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSnowSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockem_sockem_connection Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Thankful to be in Florida for this train wreck. I hyped it up before I left too, silly me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, penndotguy said: Snow Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk snow line should drop back se as the storm matures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, penndotguy said: Snow Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I can't keep up with all the transitions I'm getting. Was just heavy sleet, then no joke heavy snow, and now back to sleet. Riding the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Moderate chunky aggregates falling down to 24.4F I would have taken this fail hard in Dec-Feb glad it's Morch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Absolutely raging ice storm outside. I have never seen sleet rates like this before even during the great Valentine's Day sleet storm. This may go down as epic yet. Could potentially be one of the biggest snowfall busts ever in terms of actual snow totals vs forecast amounts and one of the most underforecast sleet/ice storms that the region has ever seen. Absolute skating rink out there. Will need a pickaxe or jackhammer by the time this is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, The Iceman said: 50 50 rain and sleet mix and under a blizzard warning. what a horrible horrible forecast and absolutely embarrassing there has been no update. rain still isn't even in my forecast. it's like they can't even look out the window... That's really rough. Tricky forecast, and it's not looking good. But in fairness, you are right on the southern border of the heavier snow forecasts. The NWS forecast just 5 miles south of you looks a little more reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 720 am: We are holding warnings as is for now though probably downgrading blizzard in monmouth. Just had 49 kt se wind gust from wxflow near Wallops Island around 650A. Tremendous fluxes developing right now as the storm will begin realizing its excessive potential both in terms of wind, probably coastal flooding and a band 3"/hr snowfall rates as a band of seems to be developing fm vcnty chesapeake bay which will extend north through Reading up to MPO by Noon. Will not surprise to see northward sleet mix collapse sewd twd I-95 next 3 hours as the abv freezing layer near 850MB cools, partly by excessive uvm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Absolutely raging ice storm outside. I have never seen sleet rates like this before even during the great Valentine's Day sleet storm. This may go down as epic yet. Could potentially be one of the biggest snowfall busts ever in terms of actual snow totals vs forecast amounts and one of the most underforecast sleet/ice storms that the region has ever seen. Absolute skating rink out there. Will need a pickaxe or jackhammer by the time this is over. Ralph i can't figure any of this out I adapted expectations for a sleet storm but the rates are very disappointing up here Garden variety sleet lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It looks like there is some heavy but very fine snow right now. I am sure there is dangerous travel, so NWS at least got that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 19 minutes ago, hazwoper said: You need to take a step back. Again these posts are why mets never come in here um i dont need to do anything buddy. if they can't handle perfectly reasonable criticism then good riddance. it is an awful forecast sorry if their feelings are hurt but im calling it what it is. I don't need to get on my knees to defend a forecast just because they are pros. it is an absolutely terrible forecast and there's been a severe lack of updates. these are just facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Current radar (but will continually update) - https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/northeast_loop.php It's juicy but still hugging. It's not near any benchmark. Temp down to 27F here and slowly falling. Still FZRA, a few pingers, and fine flakes mixed in. Edit to add that colder objects (metal, shrubs, etc) are starting to get coated as the surface temp drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDoppler Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, Newman said: I can't keep up with all the transitions I'm getting. Was just heavy sleet, then no joke heavy snow, and now back to sleet. Riding the line. I'm right with you riding that line also. I'm just slightly more sleet than you I think. (same latitude, slightly further east) Sometimes I hear pinging, sometimes I don't. I hate this time of day.......sunlight not strong enough to help much yet, but lights are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Heavy...heavy sleet falling with winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Heavy snow being reported in Bethlehem 15 miles oh the humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Dumping sleet, 28.1F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The northward push of the mix has hit a wall. Now we wait for the push south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkd Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Wow. Took an hour nap and woke up to a raging snowstorm. No sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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