bluewave Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 24 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: But the warm air coming in during the height of the storm would've been very hard to nail down. If you stayed all snow you got 18", if you flipped you got 6 or anywhere in between. So it was very tricky, and the NWS didn't do a good job illustrating this IMO. They were slow to even mention mixing and took a long time to reduce amounts (I saw the posted article explaining the reasoning) One of the things that I try to do when talking to people about an upcoming event or pattern is mention where the uncertainty in the forecast is which could result in changes. People are very understanding if you give them a range of options to work with. But this may be easier to achieve on a smaller scale than with a very large forecast agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 30 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: That's incredible. I wonder what the duration was. Even in 18-24 hours that's extremely impressive I agree. There was also a 41.0" amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: I agree. There was also a 41.0" amount. Bridgewater, NY. The area near Utica got crushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Biggest city to get crushed was Montreal. Part of the city got 28 inches. Schools are even closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 My uncles country house in NE Pa at 1900' 36". Biggest storm there since march 93. And they missed all the other blizzards we had here so it shows the different nature of this storm. The difference between where I live and where I work is incredible. About 2" of rock solid ice here. Happy I wasnt here to see what my dad described as hours or pouring rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp146 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: My uncles country house in NE Pa at 1900' 36". Biggest storm there since march 93. And they missed all the other blizzards we had here so it shows the different nature of this storm. The difference between where I live and where I work is incredible. About 2" of rock solid ice here. Happy I wasnt here to see what my dad described as hours or pouring rain I woke up about 5:30 AM to sleet pings on the window. I knew it was only downhill from there. When I got out of bed a couple hours later it was already raining I like to check out the ski mountains to find where the jackpot zones were. Its never official with these places, but it looks like Hunter got three feet and then stopped counting. I saw Whiteface had 40" this morning and it was still snowing pretty good at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 i got about a foot in springfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Dobbs Ferry Schools used 2 snow days for this storm. Probably a nod to teachers that live up north and the fact they had only used 1 snow day before (2/9), and they always allot 3 cancellations per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Not a fan of this storm. We got 4" of snow, then an inch of sleet, and then pure rain from about noon to 4. We then got an additional 1/2 inch of snow. The rain flooded the street so the snow was sopping wet to shovel, especially where the plow had come by. Now everything is a skating rink. An absolute unmitigated disaster. The 5" put me at 43.3 for the season, identical to last season. On a final note, to me a 40" total upstate isnt that impressive since they get lake effect numbers that high anyway. Give me a 60" total and i will be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveWinter Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 21 minutes ago, psv88 said: Not a fan of this storm. We got 4" of snow, then an inch of sleet, and then pure rain from about noon to 4. We then got an additional 1/2 inch of snow. The rain flooded the street so the snow was sopping wet to shovel, especially where the plow had come by. Now everything is a skating rink. An absolute unmitigated disaster. The 5" put me at 43.3 for the season, identical to last season. On a final note, to me a 40" total upstate isnt that impressive since they get lake effect numbers that high anyway. Give me a 60" total and i will be impressed. I don't think those particular locations get 40" from lake effect though. Favored areas for very high totals are usually in the Tug Hill and southern Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 26 minutes ago, psv88 said: Not a fan of this storm. We got 4" of snow, then an inch of sleet, and then pure rain from about noon to 4. We then got an additional 1/2 inch of snow. The rain flooded the street so the snow was sopping wet to shovel, especially where the plow had come by. Now everything is a skating rink. An absolute unmitigated disaster. The 5" put me at 43.3 for the season, identical to last season. On a final note, to me a 40" total upstate isnt that impressive since they get lake effect numbers that high anyway. Give me a 60" total and i will be impressed. 40" synoptic is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from 40" LES. The liquid equivalent is much higher in synoptic snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mriceyman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 27 minutes ago, psv88 said: Not a fan of this storm. We got 4" of snow, then an inch of sleet, and then pure rain from about noon to 4. We then got an additional 1/2 inch of snow. The rain flooded the street so the snow was sopping wet to shovel, especially where the plow had come by. Now everything is a skating rink. An absolute unmitigated disaster. The 5" put me at 43.3 for the season, identical to last season. On a final note, to me a 40" total upstate isnt that impressive since they get lake effect numbers that high anyway. Give me a 60" total and i will be impressed. Whiteface does not get big totals from LE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, nzucker said: 40" synoptic is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from 40" LES. The liquid equivalent is much higher in synoptic snows. Maybe so, but those amounts fell in the mountains and in areas where there is farmland and small towns. Now if Boston got 40" from one storm i would be impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, mriceyman said: Whiteface does not get big totals from LE Ok, but its a 5,000 foot mountain...lol...if my house were at 5,000 feet id have 30" from this storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, psv88 said: Maybe so, but those amounts fell in the mountains and in areas where there is farmland and small towns. Now if Boston got 40" from one storm i would be impressed. 40" in Boston? Meh! I won't be impressed until Bermuda sees a 40" snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Juliancolton said: 40" in Boston? Meh! I won't be impressed until Bermuda sees a 40" snowstorm. Look out west, Tahoe received like 10 feet in 2 days...that is impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, psv88 said: Ok, but its a 5,000 foot mountain...lol...if my house were at 5,000 feet id have 30" from this storm Not at all that's where all the warm air was during this for us. You would have gotten a little more snow during the snow portion but then rain instead of sleet the coastal front seems to have set up just east of the nassua queens border. I'm on the LIRR right now and it looked pretty awful until about that point and bam there was a hell of allot more. So from like 2" to 6" in a couple miles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, psv88 said: Look out west, Tahoe received like 10 feet in 2 days...that is impressive Meh, it's a small town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 42 minutes ago, psv88 said: Not a fan of this storm. We got 4" of snow, then an inch of sleet, and then pure rain from about noon to 4. We then got an additional 1/2 inch of snow. The rain flooded the street so the snow was sopping wet to shovel, especially where the plow had come by. Now everything is a skating rink. An absolute unmitigated disaster. The 5" put me at 43.3 for the season, identical to last season. On a final note, to me a 40" total upstate isnt that impressive since they get lake effect numbers that high anyway. Give me a 60" total and i will be impressed. I thought the storm might be lousy in Long Beach, but it ended up even lousier than I thought. I was hoping for at least 6" which even the warmer models suggested but ended up under 4. We had mostly rain with some sleet mixed in which made everything a slushy sloppy mess. Not much melted because of it being only around 34-35, but now there are sheets of ice and a couple or few inches of concrete on the ground. Where I am now in Woodside there's probably triple that on the ground and with that I lost the lead for winter snow I had over the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 16 hours ago, BombsAway1288 said: Huh? The UKIE has an 18z? I had no idea. Thought it was just 00z and 12z like the EURO yes, it was posted in our forum as a gag bc there are so many models and turns out it was pretty accurate lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, codfishsnowman said: yes, it was posted in our forum as a gag bc there are so many models and turns out it was pretty accurate lol Too bad we don't run the 1.5 KM hi res UK here like they do in the UK. http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/modelling-systems/unified-model/weather-forecasting https://ams.confex.com/ams/31Hurr/webprogram/Paper243428.html A major upgrade to the Met Office Global Model is planned for implementation before the middle of 2014. This includes a major revision to the model's dynamical core, improved physics and increased horizontal resolution to about 17 km at mid-latitudes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mriceyman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 hour ago, psv88 said: Look out west, Tahoe received like 10 feet in 2 days...that is impressive 10k feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jm1220 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Seeing some pictures from friends of mine in Hazleton, PA and the snow is just absurd. Looks like 24-30" easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 hour ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Not at all that's where all the warm air was during this for us. You would have gotten a little more snow during the snow portion but then rain instead of sleet the coastal front seems to have set up just east of the nassua queens border. I'm on the LIRR right now and it looked pretty awful until about that point and bam there was a hell of allot more. So from like 2" to 6" in a couple miles Yea, from noon to 4 pm it was pouring rain and 35-36 degrees, melted a good 2 inches of the snowpack, leaving a remaining 3 inches or so of cement. I think that was the difference. Really just an awful storm for Nassau and Suffolk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 hours ago, psv88 said: Not a fan of this storm. We got 4" of snow, then an inch of sleet, and then pure rain from about noon to 4. We then got an additional 1/2 inch of snow. The rain flooded the street so the snow was sopping wet to shovel, especially where the plow had come by. Now everything is a skating rink. An absolute unmitigated disaster. The 5" put me at 43.3 for the season, identical to last season. On a final note, to me a 40" total upstate isnt that impressive since they get lake effect numbers that high anyway. Give me a 60" total and i will be impressed. 40" synoptic is always impressive. We didn't have much in the way of slush or puddles here for some reason. We also had a much larger percentage of sleet vs snow compared to you. There was more than enough rain, but it seemed only to bind the sleet together. You cant make a dent in this stuff in the shade. Not sure how efficient my rain gauge catch was (4" cylinder) but I only got 1.21" (combo of rain and melted). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 17 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said: 40" synoptic is always impressive. We didn't have much on the way of slush or puddles here for some reason. We also had a much larger percentage of sleet vs snow compared to you. There was more than enough rain, but it seemed only to bind the sleet together. You cant make a dent in this stuff in the shade. Not sure how efficient my rain gauge catch was (4" cylinder) but I only got 1.21" (combo of rain and melted). Yeah it's rock sold in wantagh but only about 2". There is a solid 10" here on 120th and broadway about 3 miles north west of where they take the parks measurments. Some of the piles in the shade are going to take a very long time to melt with all the cold air upcoming. Thy aren't really piles more like blocks of ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersWx92 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Had quite a snow squall come through Bridgewater about half an hour ago. Picked up a quick inch in 20 minutes. Visibilities couldn't have been more than a tenth of a mile. I suppose I should add that to my storm total to bring me up to 8.5-9".Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, RutgersWx92 said: Had quite a snow squall come through Bridgewater about half an hour ago. Picked up a quick inch in 20 minutes. Visibilities couldn't have been more than a tenth of a mile. I suppose I should add that to my storm total to bring me up to 8.5-9". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm in it right now I drove down the parkway. Absolutely blinding. this is more like a lake effect band, very impressive. Cars are actually pulling over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 there's a very noticeable difference in snow depth/piles between rahway and springfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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