weatherpruf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 41 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: In this type of setup had the low tracked about 50 miles further SE we'd be talking widespread 20"+ in most areas. And it would have been easier to deal with. I got stuck in the street trying to clean the driveway, got plowed in took 4 people to push me out. Can't shovel or snowblow the thick slush at the end of the driveway. Don't know how anyone will get out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Wasn't March 2001 one of the analogs for this storm? Looks like the disappointments aren't too far off. Everyone thought this would eventually trend east but phased monster storms like this always do the opposite. We can't win them all but hey most of us were able to hit our seasonal totals despite a record warm winter. We are still short by about 4 inches. A normal snow year for 1980's.....Same kinds of snows too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 If expectations for much of the area had been tempered it would have been a decent storm in an otherwise pitiful year. Or, if we had had numerous ones like it. But it looked like we might get the big one and well, the areas that did well, while having been shafted in recent years, are kinda the places when I was a kid that got this kind of thing. Actually even they didn't see too many storms over a foot IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 different reports of an #Avalanche in Falls Township in Tunkhannock, PA. Route 92 closed. #PAWX https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSBinghamton/status/841713643783876608?p=v 0236 PM HEAVY SNOW 1 NNE GLEN LYON 41.20N 76.06W 03/14/2017 U20.0 INCH LUZERNE PA TRAINED SPOTTER ROOF COLLAPSE. PEOPLE TRAPPED IN HOUSE. ...WAYNE COUNTY... DAMASCUS 30.0 148 PM 3/14 TRAINED SPOTTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Low just about over Westhampton. Wind there is light out of the east and pressure is 979mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metasequoia Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The snow continues in Manhattan. It's not that heavy, but it's persistent. System seems to be backfilling. Is this part of the ULL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, BombsAway1288 said: Wow that's impressive! I'm a few towns down Rt. 304 in Bergen County and am eyeballing 7-8. I'm assuming I lost and inch or two to compaction of the 4 hours of heavy sleet we had. Had that been snow like the models were showing, we would of gotten to 18" IMO. Very juicy system, the mid-levels were just too warm too far north. Montvale was over 10" at 10 am on the pns. You sure you eyeballed while standing straight up? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Low just about over Westhampton. Wind there is light out of the east and pressure is 979mb. in the upper 40's out there too. Parts of Cape cod and south of boston are well into the 40's. Could be worse for us-if you're east of the low you really torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: If expectations for much of the area had been tempered it would have been a decent storm in an otherwise pitiful year. Or, if we had had numerous ones like it. But it looked like we might get the big one and well, the areas that did well, while having been shafted in recent years, are kinda the places when I was a kid that got this kind of thing. Actually even they didn't see too many storms over a foot IIRC. I wouldn't call it a pituful year...I had four snowfalls of 4" or more in the Bronx, including 10" in Feb and 8" this March. Yes, temps were warm, but snowfall was respectable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: We are still short by about 4 inches. A normal snow year for 1980's.....Same kinds of snows too. My 8" today gets me to about 29 inches for the winter. I believe that's just about average for this area. Not bad considering how warm this winter has been. Amazing how well we continue to do in the snowfall department despite the winters getting warmer and warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveWinter Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Metasequoia said: The snow continues in Manhattan. It's not that heavy, but it's persistent. System seems to be backfilling. Is this part of the ULL? Yes it been very fine moderate snow (and sleet I am assuming) for hours and hours now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 54 minutes ago, Snow88 said: I wish this was for our area Death band from Bing to Utica looks sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 19 minutes ago, Morris said: 1.91" before 19z. 1.93" LE now. Watching if they end up hitting the modeled 2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, nzucker said: I wouldn't call it a pituful year...I had four snowfalls of 4" or more in the Bronx, including 10" in Feb and 8" this March. Yes, temps were warm, but snowfall was respectable. Far from pitiful.. When this storm ends ill be at or over 75" for the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Low just about over Westhampton. Wind there is light out of the east and pressure is 979mb. Had 4" with that band that sat over us then a sleet fest for a while before the rain. 5" of slop which is now like 2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metasequoia Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 There's a decent band forming to our west that might make it through the metro... http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=DIX-N0Q-1-48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 42 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: The park just shy of 30" Another technical AN snow winter. And this one was very warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, NorthShoreWx said: Death band from Bing to Utica looks sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Montvale was over 10" at 10 am on the pns. You sure you eyeballed while standing straight up? Lol Yeah I can't be far from him and I've got about 14" here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, NJwx85 said: Yeah I can't be far from him and I've got about 14" here. Getting all different measurements here , I'd say I have 12-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombsAway1288 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: If expectations for much of the area had been tempered it would have been a decent storm in an otherwise pitiful year. Or, if we had had numerous ones like it. But it looked like we might get the big one and well, the areas that did well, while having been shafted in recent years, are kinda the places when I was a kid that got this kind of thing. Actually even they didn't see too many storms over a foot IIRC. It's hard to temper expectations when most models were still giving major snows to at least NYC west and Upton was still honking as late as 7am this morning. I mean, they're supposed to be the best of the best, right? Even the RGEM still had high totals late last night (at least for this area). One thing I've leaned is to take the NAM a lot more seriously. It really nailed this super amped track. That and the UK also did very well (track wise). When it rammed the low into CT a couple of days ago I had a feeling that was bad news but it didn't really have a lot of support so I dismissed. Never, ever bet against a NAM/UK/RGEM combo I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, nzucker said: Do you know how much NE PA has? Like Wayne Cty? Looks like they jacked ..WAYNE COUNTY... DAMASCUS 30.0 148 PM 3/14 TRAINED SPOTTER WAYMART 27.0 136 PM 3/14 FACEBOOK BEACH LAKE 24.0 120 PM 3/14 TRAINED SPOTTER 6 E HAMLIN 23.5 122 PM 3/14 STORM CHASER HONESDALE 23.2 120 PM 3/14 TRAINED SPOTTER HAWLEY 22.0 101 PM 3/14 TRAINED SPOTTER STERLING 21.0 1130 AM 3/14 TRAINED SPOTTER HAMLIN 20.1 1212 PM 3/14 TRAINED SPOTTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The amazing thing to me is how bad the Euro blew it. I think it's resolution isn't good enough in these events to see warm noses, although it's better than the GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 4.5" of snow and sleet here. The sleet takes rain like a champ. We'll be left with a solid cover. Probably concrete. I didn't check the rain gauge yet, but it got pretty wet. Temp maxed just shy of 37 and is now down to 34 and drizzling. Seasonal total is now 41.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Wondering how much more i woulda ended up with had i not had hours of sleet. Highest depth i had was 14", and even with hours of sleet it didnt go up much from where it was as all snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BombsAway1288 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, BxEngine said: Montvale was over 10" at 10 am on the pns. You sure you eyeballed while standing straight up? Lol lol yes but like I said, I eyeballed. It was a small area from inside my home at the end of the storm. Haven't ventured out but it's definitely possible that we got to double figures. My backyard doesn't measure windy storms that well at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCG RS Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Wondering how much more i woulda ended up with had i not had hours of sleet. Highest depth i had was 14", and even with hours of sleet it didnt go up much from where it was as all snow. Sleet is 3:1 roughly in ratio vs let say 10:1. Sleet is therefore 30% of what would have been snow accumulation. At that time, the height, models were saying 4-6" and an hour. Lets make it easy and say 5" an hour. Let's say it was 5 hours. 30% of 25 is 7.5. Subtracting this from 25, I figure you lost about 17.5 inches .in other words 14 vs 31.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The wind can stop now thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherfreeeeak Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, BombsAway1288 said: It's hard to temper expectations when most models were still giving major snows to at least NYC west and Upton was still honking as late as 7am this morning. I mean, they're supposed to be the best of the best, right? Even the RGEM still had high totals late last night (at least for this area). One thing I've leaned is to take the NAM a lot more seriously. It really nailed this super amped track. That and the UK also did very well (track wise). When it rammed the low into CT a couple of days ago I had a feeling that was bad news but it didn't really have a lot of support so I dismissed. Never, ever bet against a NAM/UK/RGEM combo I guess. Even though they're going to be using the new para NAM and no longer the 12km one any more, the 12km nailed this storm. Does anyone know if they'll be keeping it like if we'll still be able to use the 12km after the switch or will they get rid of it all together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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