nyblizz44 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Its not quite Juno or March 2001 level disapointment but this one will be up there: the Big Trio ( for all the wrong reasons). This stings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm actually enjoying this. Its not often you get a sleetstorm here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Back to 80% snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 13z HRRR has another 20-22" on top of the 12"+ already on the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgame830 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Pleasantville NY 9" measured at 9:30am... going back out soon just pouring snow! Very Heavy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Mostly rain here now, 33f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMan06 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, nyblizz44 said: Its not quite Juno or March 2001 level disapointment but this one will be up there: the Big Trio ( for all the wrong reasons). This stings! Quite literally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgame830 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, snywx said: 13z HRRR has another 20-22" on top of the 12"+ already on the ground Hey... how about across Northern Westchester... how much more additional snow does it show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, allgame830 said: Hey... how about across Northern Westchester... how much more additional snow does it show? Northern westchester 12-16" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: I'm actually enjoying this. Its not often you get a sleetstorm here. Last one was in 2007 I rather have a 12+ inch blizzard than shovel this crap. We are going to have 6+ when all said and done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgame830 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, snywx said: Northern westchester 12-16" Wait a sec.... it shows an additional 12-16"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
readingaccount1 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hrr shows snow by 11am in middlesex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Pretty big bust for the I-95 corridor in terms of snowfall, but not in terms of total frozen precip, at least from maybe Trenton northward, where it hasn't been rain as far as I know. I had about 7" of snow/sleet on the ground about 90 minutes ago (7.5" now, with some compaction) and I shoveled the driveway at that point and 90 min later I now have about 2" of sleet on the driveway, which is the equivalent of about 6" of snow, so I have about 13" of "snow equivalent," in terms of total frozen precip mass, even if I only have 7.5" depth (partly due to compaction - the 7" + 2" sleet did not equal 9" depth, lol), which is just as hard to shovel or plow and is just as bad on the roads - it's just not the same depth it would be if it were all snow and maybe isn't as pretty. From a meteorological perspective, snow and sleet are just counted together, as depth, so it is more of a bust from that perspective. I'm guessing we should get another inch or two of sleet (3-6" snow equivalent, which would bring us to 16-19" of "snow equivalent" mass) unless it changes to rain, although it's still just 29F, so that's unlikely - and if it does, it would be freezing rain, which the NWS warned about, which would be really bad. So maybe a topic for another thread: should we be "measuring" some sort of "snow equivalent" in some way? No easy way to do it, but there ought to be a way to convey that 6" of snow and 4" of sleet is roughly the same mass as 18" of snow even if the depth would probably be maybe 8", due to compaction, not 10", as the sleet on top of the snow compacts the underlying snow significantly. Or just convert it to liquid equivalent and then assume 10:1 to compare it to other snowstorms - problem there is then you'd always have to do this for every snowstorm to get them on the same mass basis. In truth, snow mass is a better gauge of impact than snow depth, anyway (mass is more important than depth for shoveling and removal and is just as important for travel impacts), but I doubt it'll ever really be used, since depth is so much easier to measure. Curious what people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, Snow88 said: Last one was in 2007 I rather have a 12+ inch blizzard than shovel this crap. We are going to have 6+ when all said and done It's the interiors turn let them have it they deserve it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, snywx said: 13z HRRR has another 20-22" on top of the 12"+ already on the ground Why are we still believing it? It failed miserably last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, allgame830 said: Wait a sec.... it shows an additional 12-16"?? yes lol.. from 13z on so from 9am on an additional 12-16" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleetStormNJ Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Snow mixing back in with sleet. Looks like we might flip back or transition to an 80-20 snow mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, nyblizz44 said: Its not quite Juno or March 2001 level disapointment but this one will be up there: the Big Trio ( for all the wrong reasons). This stings! it stings quite literally, I had to shield my eyeballs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, real said: Why are we still believing it? It failed miserably last night Why? Cause its nailing the north western part of the storm. Im not located in NYC in case you are wondering. Im in Orange county Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1.23" LE in the park so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHSnow Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 heavy sleet continues - 5.5 inches and 30F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allgame830 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, snywx said: yes lol.. from 13z on so from 9am on an additional 12-16" Ok wow! Thanks!! Sorry I guess you can hear my OMG is that possible lol. Going to measure shortly, but had 9" at 930. I've had a little sleet mixed in but 85% snow, but it's still accumulating nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 This is very impressive in NYC metro. Mix of sleet and snow with heavy winds. I have about 8" of snow/sleet so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Back to snow. Let's see if we can keep it this time. 90/10 snow sleet. Temps down to 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleetStormNJ Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, snywx said: Why? Cause its nailing the north western part of the storm. Im not located in NYC in case you are wondering. Im in Orange county The snow band near you looks to be incredible the next three or four hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrye Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Tarrytown now 100% sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGod Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Starting to flip back to snow here as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, dmillz25 said: It's the interiors turn let them have it they deserve it Interior here and failed 6" half snow half sleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, RU848789 said: Pretty big bust for the I-95 corridor in terms of snowfall, but not in terms of total frozen precip, at least from maybe Trenton northward, where it hasn't been rain as far as I know. I had about 7" of snow/sleet on the ground about 90 minutes ago (7.5" now, with some compaction) and I shoveled the driveway at that point and 90 min later I now have about 2" of sleet on the driveway, which is the equivalent of about 6" of snow, so I have about 13" of "snow equivalent," in terms of total frozen precip mass, even if I only have 7.5" depth (partly due to compaction - the 7" + 2" sleet did not equal 9" depth, lol), which is just as hard to shovel or plow and is just as bad on the roads - it's just not the same depth it would be if it were all snow and maybe isn't as pretty. From a meteorological perspective, snow and sleet are just counted together, as depth, so it is more of a bust from that perspective. I'm guessing we should get another inch or two of sleet (3-6" snow equivalent, which would bring us to 16-19" of "snow equivalent" mass) unless it changes to rain, although it's still just 29F, so that's unlikely - and if it does, it would be freezing rain, which the NWS warned about, which would be really bad. So maybe a topic for another thread: should we be "measuring" some sort of "snow equivalent" in some way? No easy way to do it, but there ought to be a way to convey that 6" of snow and 4" of sleet is roughly the same mass as 18" of snow even if the depth would probably be maybe 8", due to compaction, not 10", as the sleet on top of the snow compacts the underlying snow significantly. Or just convert it to liquid equivalent and then assume 10:1 to compare it to other snowstorms - problem there is then you'd always have to do this for every snowstorm to get them on the same mass basis. In truth, snow mass is a better gauge of impact than snow depth, anyway (mass is more important than depth for shoveling and removal and is just as important for travel impacts), but I doubt it'll ever really be used, since depth is so much easier to measure. Curious what people think. I was just thinking we are piling up some impressive sleet....i cleaned early because the threat of rain on top of what I guess was about 5 inches at the time would be impossible to clean, and since then everything is covered up again. But the heck with it. It's March, nature will take care of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, snywx said: Why? Cause its nailing the north western part of the storm. Im not located in NYC in case you are wondering. Im in Orange county All models had you getting snow lol it hasn't done well with the rain/snow line at all farther south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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