Snowshack Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: Well you are right about the public, and that is my primary interest in these events. How does it affect people? But did they make the right calls with the tools available? I am not a met, but it seems there were tools they chose to ignore, maybe for sound reasons I don't know. As for disaster, most of the public does not like snow, and view 2 feet as a disaster. As of two days ago, the blizzard watches were warranted. Yesterday serious busy potential started to emerge but official forecasts cannot and should not flip with every model run. The public has to understand we often ride the line between precip types in our particular area. It just is what it is. I still don't get how people view 2' as a disaster. In Atlanta, yes. But with all the big snows here over the last 20 years, and the enormous public and private money spent on snow removal equipment and manhours, the impact for most people even for the biggest events is minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metasequoia Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Ripping sleet in Battery Park City. Very reduced visibility...for sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 While disappointing snow wise for some of us, a fascinating storm nonetheless.... Frustrating also lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Snowshack said: As of two days ago, the blizzard watches were warranted. Yesterday serious busy potential started to emerge but official forecasts cannot and should not flip with every model run. The public has to understand we often ride the line between precip types in our particular area. It just is what it is. I still don't get how people view 2' as a disaster. In Atlanta, yes. But with all the big snows here over the last 20 years, and the enormous public and private money spent on snow removal equipment and manhours, the impact for most people even for the biggest events is minimal. I actually think 2' is fairly easy to deal with in rural areas or suburban areas. In recent decades, very rare for anyone on the East Coast to get snowed in for days, so the whole run to the grocery store thing seems a bit outdated. But in big cities -- be it New York, Chicago, DC, etc, -- once you get over 18 inches, it starts to get a bit difficult to get around because you start running out of places to put the snow. Buses get stuck, elderly people can't get out to get their medicine, and all those issues that can flare up in a city even without snow. In this case, however, its already mid March. Even if we got 3 feet, should have been more obvious things would clear up far quicker than it would in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Not even really sure what we have here so far, few inches maybe. Don't know, don't care-the sooner this turd of a storm can be gone and we can move on, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternLI Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 2' of snow is not a disaster..... 2' of wet snow would be disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 LOL, down to not even an advisory here and advisory for the city where 12-20" was forecasted yesterday. The coastal flood warning still very much up though. Should be a fun high tide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I know it's a tacky thing to say, but seriously, even if it sucks in your backyard, it's really an amazing weather event playing out right now. I do feel bad for the folks getting screwed over, but I know I always enjoy watching the big coastal snowstorms from afar. In all likelihood, we won't have anything half this exciting to watch for quite some time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It's a day off at least and I get to catchup on the sleep I lost tracking this the last few days. Back to bed. Congrats though inland folks-send/share pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ababa Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 The obs thread should be retitled to "the bust of 2017 thread." What a total disaster....I can't believe I wasted so much time tracking this thing. What's the story with the weather agencies getting rid of/changing the algorithm of models that are correct. Euro used to be king and consistent, now it has wild swing to swing variations. Nam has been pretty awesome this winter....now in the garbage it goes....yet they keep running the cras....it's bizarre...its like they want to be wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West of Town Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 It's been snowing at insane rates at MMU the past 90 minutes. Any good HD radars to track this on, other than TWC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 41 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Not even really sure what we have here so far, few inches maybe. Don't know, don't care-the sooner this turd of a storm can be gone and we can move on, the better. Despite how great this 2000's snow era has been, NYC still hasn't had a 12" event in March since 1960. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 29 minutes ago, Juliancolton said: I know it's a tacky thing to say, but seriously, even if it sucks in your backyard, it's really an amazing weather event playing out right now. I do feel bad for the folks getting screwed over, but I know I always enjoy watching the big coastal snowstorms from afar. In all likelihood, we won't have anything half this exciting to watch for quite some time Much easier to deal with being on the wrong side of a bust in this current snowy era. In the 80's a narrow miss on a big storm was crushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West of Town Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Lot of snow so far at MMU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMan06 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Dammit I'm back to pingers again. Now like 90/10 sleet/snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 36 minutes ago, bluewave said: Despite how great this 2000's snow era has been, NYC still hasn't had a 12" event in March since 1960. And that's why I doubted we would see it today. When will this turkey end? I really don't want to lose my sump pumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Juliancolton said: I know it's a tacky thing to say, but seriously, even if it sucks in your backyard, it's really an amazing weather event playing out right now. I do feel bad for the folks getting screwed over, but I know I always enjoy watching the big coastal snowstorms from afar. In all likelihood, we won't have anything half this exciting to watch for quite some time... Julian I'm extremely lucky I got out to PA in time for this, got over a foot already with temps in the upper teens at elevation. Back home I heard we have 4 inches.....of mostly sleet Next big exciting thing to track will be a huge heatwave which we hopefully will have this summer- here's to 100+ heat in July! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 13 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: And that's why I doubted we would see it today. When will this turkey end? I really don't want to lose my sump pumps. Whose idea was it to name this Stella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, bluewave said: Whose idea was it to name this Stella? Now that is funny....I needed that! Praying we don't lose power here in CNJ.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 49 minutes ago, bluewave said: Despite how great this 2000's snow era has been, NYC still hasn't had a 12" event in March since 1960. and it's never gonna happen lol. You know how our winters and cold season have narrowed down to DJF (with the notable exception of 2015 of course.) I have a strong feeling that even if this storm had taken the "ideal" track for NYC it still would have found a way to bust somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Paragon said: Julian I'm extremely lucky I got out to PA in time for this, got over a foot already with temps in the upper teens at elevation. Back home I heard we have 4 inches.....of mostly sleet Next big exciting thing to track will be a huge heatwave which we hopefully will have this summer- here's to 100+ heat in July! Don't expect much when you get home, will probably be washed away. Enjoy it up there and take pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just now, jm1220 said: Don't expect much when you get home, will probably be washed away. Enjoy it up there and take pics. I just woke up, so going to do that as soon as I grab a quick breakfast. I posted in the main thread, how is the wind over there? My only updates have been via weather channel lol- 4" of sleet back at home but the winds haven't ramped up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 epic bust, smfh. cant even get a solid snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West of Town Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Very much like Feb 2001 and Feb 2014... SN+ nuts at MMU and a brief 10 minute wind-driven sleet interlude. Back to SN+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Computer Guy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I was afraid to look outside because I've been hearing sleet for quite a while. Just kept going back to sleep. At least we got a day off I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Despite how great this 2000's snow era has been, NYC still hasn't had a 12" event in March since 1960. This could have been the one. I lost so much sleep tracking this. The pattern did look great for a big snowstorm for the coast. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Snowlover11 said: epic bust, smfh. cant even get a solid snowstorm. It is also a bust near you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Snow88 said: This could have been the one. I lost so much sleep tracking this. The pattern did look great for a big snowstorm for the coast. Shame. Based on the NYC's dwindling history of March snowstorms, even if this took the perfect track, it would have found some way to bust. Unless you have an anomalously cold winter like 2014-15, I don't think you're going to be able to see big March snowstorms in NYC anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F5TornadoF5 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 At least the winds aren't disappointing. Sustained winds are some of the best I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North and West of Town Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Dumb question... after this sleet/snow mix moves out, do we get snow on the back end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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