tdp146 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 55 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: I would take pretty much any place in Hawaii as the best all year. They do have a rainy season but so does the Bay area. Also the Northern portions of each island tends to be drier than the Southern portion. I thought I remember it being the other way around. Either way, the real rain comes in the mountains in the interior of the islands and the beaches are typically sunny and nice. There is reason its an epic tourist location. Kauai must have one of the tightest rainfall gradients in the world. It goes from 10-20 inches annually on the beaches to 300+ in center of the island. Its only a distance of like 15 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, tdp146 said: I thought I remember it being the other way around. Either way, the real rain comes in the mountains in the interior of the islands and the beaches are typically sunny and nice. There is reason its an epic tourist location. Kauai must have one of the tightest rainfall gradients in the world. It goes from 10-20 inches annually on the beaches to 300+ in center of the island. Its only a distance of like 15 miles. Yes, plus you picked one of the rainiest islands. If you take the road to Hana all the way around on Maui you travel from a rain forrest where they receive over 300 inches of rain per year to a dessert where they receive less than 10" per year over the course of a mile or two. I honeymooned in Hawaii last August and it's truly paradise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp146 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: Yes, plus you picked one of the rainiest islands. If you take the road to Hana all the way around on Maui you travel from a rain forrest where they receive over 300 inches of rain per year to a dessert where they receive less than 10" per year over the course of a mile or two. I honeymooned in Hawaii last August and it's truly paradise. We honeymooned in Kauai and Maui in August '14 and agree, its paradise. It really IS all its cracked up to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 17 hours ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: I love snow no matter what. I wonder what would be the snowiest mjor college in the country. I would think Marquette True. I would think one of the colleges in the lake effect zone. 5 hours ago, NJwx85 said: I would take pretty much any place in Hawaii as the best all year. They do have a rainy season but so does the Bay area. Also the Northern portions of each island tends to be drier than the Southern portion. Weather boredom would set in pretty quickly for our crew here in either location. But both areas are beautiful places to live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, bluewave said: True. I would think one of the colleges in the lake effect zone. Weather boredom would set in pretty quickly for our crew here in either location. But both areas are beautiful places to live. Well if you needed a snow fix that badly, the highest peaks in Hawaii sometimes receive snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, NJwx85 said: Well if you needed a snow fix that badly, the highest peaks in Hawaii sometimes receive snow. I would have to stop at the Mona Kea Observatory if I ever made the trip to Hawaii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 Just now, bluewave said: I would have to stop at the Mona Kea Observatory if I ever made the trip to Hawaii. You have to get there at least once. I've been to a lot of nice places and nothing even comes close. And the fact that it's part of the United States adds to the appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 1 hour ago, bluewave said: True. I would think one of the colleges in the lake effect zone. Weather boredom would set in pretty quickly for our crew here in either location. But both areas are beautiful places to live. I went to school near Lake Mich. The lake effect snow experience was great time for a weather fan from NY. Wasn't as snowy as up in Marquette but the closet official climate station was South Bend, IN which I believe avg around 70 something inches. I was closer to the Lake so probably was averaging around 80"+ Lake effect is so variable sometime the avg wont tell that part. I remember a time there was a surprise super skinny lake effect snow band dumped 15+" in half a day but outside of it was partly sunny. It'd be the equivalent of a blizzard in Manhattan, sunshine in Queens/Brooklyn and NJ. It wasn't always that extreme but wild swings in conditions would happen often. It could be incredibly dangerous if your driving 75 down the highway and without warning run into a wall of snow and heavy acclumation. Unfortunately I was also there for a couple well below normal years, but I couldn't tell b/c at that time all I knew was late 80s and 90s NYC winters which weren't very snowy outside of the 95-96 etc. Below normal could still get you 50"+ It got depressing though I cant lie, winter there has much less sunshine than NY. Lots of lake effect clouds during winter, it didn't always mean snow. One month at least some snow fell 20+ straight days. Mostly an inch or so per day with a few 2"-3" days mixed in. I would of traded that in for a 12" storm and then some sunny days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 16 hours ago, dWave said: I went to school near Lake Mich. The lake effect snow experience was great time for a weather fan from NY. Wasn't as snowy as up in Marquette but the closet official climate station was South Bend, IN which I believe avg around 70 something inches. I was closer to the Lake so probably was averaging around 80"+ Lake effect is so variable sometime the avg wont tell that part. I remember a time there was a surprise super skinny lake effect snow band dumped 15+" in half a day but outside of it was partly sunny. It'd be the equivalent of a blizzard in Manhattan, sunshine in Queens/Brooklyn and NJ. It wasn't always that extreme but wild swings in conditions would happen often. It could be incredibly dangerous if your driving 75 down the highway and without warning run into a wall of snow and heavy acclumation. Unfortunately I was also there for a couple well below normal years, but I couldn't tell b/c at that time all I knew was late 80s and 90s NYC winters which weren't very snowy outside of the 95-96 etc. Below normal could still get you 50"+ It got depressing though I cant lie, winter there has much less sunshine than NY. Lots of lake effect clouds during winter, it didn't always mean snow. One month at least some snow fell 20+ straight days. Mostly an inch or so per day with a few 2"-3" days mixed in. I would of traded that in for a 12" storm and then some sunny days. One of my few weather disappointments during the 2010's was missing out on the extreme snowfall rates up in CT during the February 2013 phaser. I guess that was the closest that this area has seen to some of the more extreme lake effect events like below. 30 minutes 6 Copenhagen, New York Dec. 2, 1966 1 hour 12 Copenhagen, New York Dec. 2, 1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Anyone know what happened to nws obs page for KFOX? http://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KFOX.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 13 minutes ago, Rjay said: Anyone know what happened to nws obs page for KFOX? http://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KFOX.html You mean KFOK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Rjay said: Anyone know what happened to nws obs page for KFOX? http://w1.weather.gov/data/obhistory/KFOX.html OKX website links to this page now: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?sid=KFOK&table=1&num=168&banner=off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 3 hours ago, uofmiami said: OKX website links to this page now: http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/mesowest/getobext.php?sid=KFOK&table=1&num=168&banner=off Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bluewave Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 This reminds me of how quickly most of our snow events the last few winters melted. https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSBoulder/status/866311810017886214/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, bluewave said: This reminds me of how quickly most of our snow events the last few winters melted. https://mobile.twitter.com/NWSBoulder/status/866311810017886214/photo/1 Now that we're getting close to June, the strength of the sun just eats snow alive. Recently, it seems that warm temperatures and rain have been erasing our snow back home, especially in January or February when the Sun is low and weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 40 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: Now that we're getting close to June, the strength of the sun just eats snow alive. Recently, it seems that warm temperatures and rain have been erasing our snow back home, especially in January or February when the Sun is low and weaker. Not to mention the vegetation that's going to absorb it all almost immediately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 5 hours ago, JerseyWx said: Now that we're getting close to June, the strength of the sun just eats snow alive. Recently, it seems that warm temperatures and rain have been erasing our snow back home, especially in January or February when the Sun is low and weaker. 14-15 featured 44.2" at JFK with 48 days of an inch or more snow cover. 15-16 was 41.4" with only 19 days of snow cover of an inch or more. I enjoyed the snows in 15-16 more due to the historic nature of the January blizzard. 14-15 was a bunch of lesser snowstorms but the ice build up on the local waterways was memorable with the February cold. Even though the 15-16 winter was 40 degrees and 40 inches of snow, the single Arctic shot on Valentine's Day was more impressive than anything during the previous 2 cold winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, bluewave said: 14-15 featured 44.2" at JFK with 48 days of an inch or more snow cover. 15-16 was 41.4" with only 19 days of snow cover of an inch or more. I enjoyed the snows in 15-16 more due to the historic nature of the January blizzard. 14-15 was a bunch of lesser snowstorms but the ice build up on the local waterways was memorable with the February cold. Even though the 15-16 winter was 40 degrees and 40 inches of snow, the single Arctic shot on Valentine's Day was more impressive than anything during the previous 2 cold winters. Yeah, 14-15 was way too "Arctic-like" for me. Like you said, lots of small stuff that added up, and brutal cold. The cold was very consistent and never ending, so it seemed. I too liked 15-16 way better. The blizzard was legendary, and temps stayed fairly mild throughout the season. I appreciate big snowstorms the most, so it was a near perfect Winter for me. This past Winter wasn't bad either, despite the March storm being pretty meh. So far Spring has certainly been more "eventful" with all the rain and cold. This May had a ton of 30's at night. I'm hoping we transition into a drier pattern where it still rains, but instead of clouds and showers spread throughout the entire week, it all happens in a day or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Don't sugarcoat the December 2015 furnace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 the last ten years Central Park had three winters with many days having an inch of snow or more... year..........1" days.....consecutive 1" days... 2014-15.......59..........50.......... 2013-14.......64..........49.......... 2010-11.......58..........54.......... 1995-96.......55..........17.......... 1993-94.......74..........40.......... 1977-78.......56..........35.......... 1976-77.......47..........37.......... 1969-70.......47..........35.......... 1960-61.......52..........32.......... 1947-48.......65..........58.......... 1922-23.......54..........19.......... 1919-20.......67..........55.......... 1917-18.......57..........18.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 since 1993-94 NYC had nine winters with at least four days with 10" on the ground...the nine had at least 18" on the ground at one time... winter..........10" days...consecutive 10" days...max depth... 2015-16..........4..........4..........23" est... 2014-15........19........18..........19" 2013-14........16........14..........18" 2010-11........23........16..........23" 2009-10..........8..........4..........21" 2005-06..........4..........4..........20" est... 2002-03..........5..........5..........20" est... 1995-96........14........10..........20" est... 1993-94..........8..........8..........22" 1982-83..........6..........6..........19" 1977-78........12..........6..........18" 1968-69..........8..........7..........15" 1966-67..........5..........5..........13" 1963-64..........5..........5..........13" 1960-61........20........10..........24" 1959-60..........6..........4..........15" 1947-48........33........16..........26" 1933-34..........6..........4..........13" 1925-26..........6..........5..........20" 1913-14..........6..........4..........13" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Morris said: Don't sugarcoat the December 2015 furnace. Decembers since the 10-11 amazing back to back years have mostly been milder with less snow. I didn't really mind December 2015. If it isn't going to snow what difference does it make if it's near 40 or +3 or 50 and +13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, bluewave said: Decembers since the 10-11 amazing back to back years have mostly been milder with less snow. I didn't really mind December 2015. If it isn't going to snow what difference does it make if it's near 40 or +3 or 50 and +13. Yup, if it's not going to snow it should be t-shirt weather. Mountain biking in short sleeves on Christmas Eve was a pleasure that year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, gravitylover said: Yup, if it's not going to snow it should be t-shirt weather. Mountain biking in short sleeves on Christmas Eve was a pleasure that year Yeah, spring in the Rockies has been our preferred mode of winter weather the last two years. Mild temperatures with all the snow getting focused into the fewer cooler temperature days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 On 5/12/2017 at 1:01 PM, uncle W said: rainfall in NYC from a tropical storm/hurricane...Floyd is in eight place on this list...Irene is third... date.................amount........ Sept 1882.......10.63" Sept 1944.........7.76" great Atlantic hurricane Aug 2011..........6.87" Irene Aug 1955..........6.32" Connie Aug 1971..........5.96" Doria Sept 1938.........5.74" Sept 1934.........5.48" Sept 1999.........5.44" Floyd Aug 1879..........4.59" Aug 1976..........4.28" Belle Oct 1877...........4.07" Aug 1893..........3.94" Sept 1904.........3.85" Aug 1991..........3.72" Bob Sept 1985.........3.58" Gloria July 1960...........3.56" Sept 1954.........3.30" Carol Sept 1960.........2.42" Donna What kind of storm was Sept 1882? Wasn't that our rainiest month on record, closely followed by October 2005? Would have broken the record had the last ten days that October not been so dry. Sept 1944 is the most underrated hurricane our region has had- probably because it came 6 years after Sept 1938. Also, it occurred during WWII. Weren't there 200 mph gusts along the Jersey Shore in Sept 1944? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 On 5/19/2017 at 9:58 AM, NJwx85 said: Yes, plus you picked one of the rainiest islands. If you take the road to Hana all the way around on Maui you travel from a rain forrest where they receive over 300 inches of rain per year to a dessert where they receive less than 10" per year over the course of a mile or two. I honeymooned in Hawaii last August and it's truly paradise. I like the main island the most- you have a tropical paradise at sea level while up in the mountains you can experience a blizzard It also has some of the best astronomical viewing in the entire world and the largest telescope on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 On 5/19/2017 at 9:34 AM, tdp146 said: I thought I remember it being the other way around. Either way, the real rain comes in the mountains in the interior of the islands and the beaches are typically sunny and nice. There is reason its an epic tourist location. Kauai must have one of the tightest rainfall gradients in the world. It goes from 10-20 inches annually on the beaches to 300+ in center of the island. Its only a distance of like 15 miles. If you want to see a lot of rain go to Cherrapunji India- I believe they've had close to 1,000" of rain in some years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Paragon said: What kind of storm was Sept 1882? Wasn't that our rainiest month on record, closely followed by October 2005? Would have broken the record had the last ten days that October not been so dry. Sept 1944 is the most underrated hurricane our region has had- probably because it came 6 years after Sept 1938. Also, it occurred during WWII. Weren't there 200 mph gusts along the Jersey Shore in Sept 1944? September 1882 was caused by a weak tropical low... 1882... http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1882-09-23/ed-1/seq-10/ http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1882-09-24/ed-1/seq-1/ http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn83030214/1882-09-24/ed-1/seq-2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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