Paragon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, forkyfork said: it's like the euro heard nzucker talking about cold temps and said, "shut up" Not sure what kind of function "cold" temps serve after 4/20 except making it dreary and depressing outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, uncle W said: 1977 had a max of 10...1958 had a max of 10 in Feb...before 1985 the last time there was a max in single digits was 1943...1880-81, 1885-86, 1917-18 and 1942-43 had two outbreaks each... date...............max min mean 12/20/1884.......7...-4...1.5 12/20/1942.......8...-3...2.5 12/29/1917.......8...-6...1.0 12/30/1917.......2.-13..-5.5 12/30/1880.......4...-6..-1.0 12/31/1917.......6...-7..-0.5 01/03/1879.......7...-4...1.5 01/12/1886.......8....2...5.0 01/13/1912.......8...-3...2.5 01/13/1914.......9...-3...3.0 01/21/1985.......9...-2...3.5 01/24/1882.......6...-6...0.0 02/02/1881.......9...-3...3.0 02/05/1918.......4...-6..-1.0 02/05/1886.......7...-4...1.5 02/08/1895.......8....2...5.0 02/09/1934.......8.-15..-3.5 02/10/1899.......7...-6...0.5 02/11/1899.......9...-2...3.5 02/12/1899.......9....4...6.5 02/15/1943.......8...-8...0.0 02/17/1896.......7...-5...1.0 Wow, so 1942-43 was our last truly cold winter in the sense that was the last time we had multiple outbreaks like that and the last time NYC went below -2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Wow that's a massive ridge, somebody's seeing 90s if not multiple days of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Wow that's a massive ridge, somebody's seeing 90s if not multiple days of them. Notice the ridge is centered onshore over the Carolinas? That's the perfect summer-time location of the ridge to get 100+ degree temps right to JFK :-) I hope this patterns holds all summer long! Downsloping west and northwest winds with high heat and low humidity are awesome in the summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 hour ago, uncle W said: 1977 had a max of 10...1958 had a max of 10 in Feb...before 1985 the last time there was a max in single digits was 1943...1880-81, 1885-86, 1917-18 and 1942-43 had two outbreaks each... date...............max min mean 12/20/1884.......7...-4...1.5 12/20/1942.......8...-3...2.5 12/29/1917.......8...-6...1.0 12/30/1917.......2.-13..-5.5 12/30/1880.......4...-6..-1.0 12/31/1917.......6...-7..-0.5 01/03/1879.......7...-4...1.5 01/12/1886.......8....2...5.0 01/13/1912.......8...-3...2.5 01/13/1914.......9...-3...3.0 01/21/1985.......9...-2...3.5 01/24/1882.......6...-6...0.0 02/02/1881.......9...-3...3.0 02/05/1918.......4...-6..-1.0 02/05/1886.......7...-4...1.5 02/08/1895.......8....2...5.0 02/09/1934.......8.-15..-3.5 02/10/1899.......7...-6...0.5 02/11/1899.......9...-2...3.5 02/12/1899.......9....4...6.5 02/15/1943.......8...-8...0.0 02/17/1896.......7...-5...1.0 My station had a high temp of 7 degrees on Jan. 19th, 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, Paragon said: Notice the ridge is centered onshore over the Carolinas? That's the perfect summer-time location of the ridge to get 100+ degree temps right to JFK :-) I hope this patterns holds all summer long! Downsloping west and northwest winds with high heat and low humidity are awesome in the summer! About the only heat record we haven't been able to set yet is a 100 degrees in May. I guess it will eventually come since we have already done mid 90's in April on several occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, bluewave said: About the only heat record we haven't been able to set yet is a 100 degrees in May. I guess it will eventually come since we have already done mid 90's in April on several occasions. Heck, we haven't even gotten to 100 degrees in June or September for that matter since the 1960s. I look back at those records from the 30s thru the 60s and wonder what had to happen for them to occur. -15 in February 1934, 106 in July 1936, -8 in February 1943, 100 in June 1953, 101 in June 1966 (and 104 in July 1966 at JFK and 107 at LGA) and 102 in September 1954! As a matter of fact our longest heatwave was between late August and early September in 1954! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Paragon said: Heck, we haven't even gotten to 100 degrees in June or September for that matter since the 1960s. I look back at those records from the 30s thru the 60s and wonder what had to happen for them to occur. -15 in February 1934, -8 in February 1943, 100 in June 1953, 101 in June 1966 (and 104 in July 1966 at JFK and 107 at LGA) and 102 in September 1954! As a matter of fact our longest heatwave was between late August and early September! Well Newark got its earliest 100 on record back in early June 2011 with the direct super drought heat discharge from Texas. Those late season record heat waves into early September during the 50's are one of the few heat records the 2010's haven't been able to beat yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, bluewave said: Well Newark got its earliest 100 on record back in early June 2011 with the direct super drought heat discharge from Texas. Those late season record heat waves into early September during the 50's are one of the few heat records the 2010's haven't been able to beat yet. Yep and I think 1965-66 was one of our driest periods so that's why the Summer of 1966 was so hot around here. Is it going to be difficult to get heat records at Central Park now because of all this vegetation overgrowth? People don't really seem to take Newark records seriously because they think the airport artificially heats up the sensor, but it's really the Central Park numbers which are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Paragon said: Yep and I think 1965-66 was one of our driest periods so that's why the Summer of 1966 was so hot around here. Is it going to be difficult to get heat records at Central Park now because of all this vegetation overgrowth? People don't really seem to take Newark records seriously because they think the airport artificially heats up the sensor, but it's really the Central Park numbers which are off. Yeah, Central Park may have come close to the 106 record set in the 1930's during July 2011 if the sensor wasn't blocked by vegetation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdp146 Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Would like to see if we could rival the most consecutive days of 90 plus. Was that the heatwave from 1954? I think it is like 13 or 14 days. I still question that location for Newark. I think the site is on a strip of grass in between 16 lanes of i95 and the EWR Tarmac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, Central Park may have come close to the 106 record set in the 1930's during July 2011 if the sensor wasn't blocked by vegetation. I'm actually shocked that the 107 at LGA from July 1966 wasn't broken but I was glad to see that Newark finally got past the 105 barrier (with a bullet- right to 108!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, Paragon said: I'm actually shocked that the 107 at LGA from July 1966 wasn't broken but I was glad to see that Newark finally got past the 105 barrier (with a bullet- right to 108!) Yeah, the winds weren't quite rite for LGA on 7-22-11 with some flow having a short path over the water. More of a SW flow may have come close to the 107. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, the winds weren't quite rite for LGA on 7-22-11 with some flow having a short path over the water. More of a SW flow may have come close to the 107. That would have killed JFK though We came close here on the south shore, I hit 103.0 and JFK hit 103 also, one off the 104 from July 1966. It reminds me of early season snowstorms, when a north wind actually keeps LGA slightly above freezing, while JFK is colder (like the November 2012 snowstorm when we got close to 8" in Nassau County.) Funny thing about July 1966, even with the severe drought, Central Park lagged behind LGA and JFK, 4 degrees cooler than LGA and 1 degree cooler than JFK, NYC "only" hit 103. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, Paragon said: That would have killed JFK though We came close here on the south shore, I hit 103.0 and JFK hit 103 also, one off the 104 from July 1966. It reminds me of early season snowstorms, when a north wind actually keeps LGA slightly above freezing, while JFK is colder (like the November 2012 snowstorm when we got close to 8" in Nassau County.) Funny thing about July 1966, even with the severe drought, Central Park lagged behind LGA and JFK, 4 degrees cooler than LGA and 1 degree cooler than JFK, NYC "only" hit 103. I remember you mentioning the 100 degree readings in July 2010 the other day when the wind shifted offshore and even briefly NE. Check out the brief temperature surge at Gilgo Beach when the winds went N and then NE. I have seen temperature jumps over 100 degrees in Long Beach several times on a hot offshore flow day like that. But never quite that high. https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KNYGILGO1#history/s20100706/e20100706/mdaily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 1 minute ago, bluewave said: I remember you mentioning the 100 degree readings in July 2010 the other day when the wind shifted offshore and even briefly NE. Check out the brief temperature surge at Gilgo Beach when the winds went N and then NE. https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KNYGILGO1#history/s20100706/e20100706/mdaily Wow, it actually hit 106.3 at 12:15 PM?! With a NE wind at 13 mph. The sand there must've caused first degree burns for anyone unlucky enough to be on it. and that page has been viewed 100 times since April 1, 2017 lol. PWS viewed 100 times since April 1, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, Paragon said: Wow, it actually hit 106.3 at 12:15 PM?! With a NE wind at 13 mph. The sand there must've caused first degree burns for anyone unlucky enough to be on it. and that page has been viewed 100 times since April 1, 2017 lol. PWS viewed 100 times since April 1, 2017 The old CedarCreek, Wantagh coop that was replaced with the mesonet had a similar brief warm surge to 107 on that day. I never even knew that site existed. But when I drove by the new mesonet the old instrument shelter and rain gauge was still there just across the road. Almanac for WANTAGH CEDAR CREEK, NY July 6, 2010 Daily Data Observed Normal Record Highest Record Lowest Max Temperature 107 82 107 in 2010 63 in 1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Just now, bluewave said: The old CedarCreek, Wantagh coop that was replaced with the mesonet had a similar brief warm surge to 107 on that day. I never even knew that site existed. But when I drove by the new mesonet the instrument shelter and rain gauge was just across the road. Almanac for WANTAGH CEDAR CREEK, NY July 6, 2010 Daily Data Observed Normal Record Highest Record Lowest Max Temperature 107 82 107 in 2010 63 in 1984 Do you think these records will be considered official? Too bad we didn't have the mesonet back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 longest 90 degree day streaks... #.....max.....dates 12...102...8/24-9/4 1953 11.....98...7/23-8/2 1999 10...102...7/7-7/16 1993 10.....98...8/4-8/13 1896 9.......98...8/11-8/19 2002 9.....104...7/13-7/21 1977 9.....101...7/6-7/14 1966 9.......94...7/5-7/13 1944 8.....102...8/10-8/17 1944 8.......97...7/29-8/5 2002 8.......98...8/2-8/9 1980 8.......98...8/28-9/4 1973 8.....100...6/26-7/3 1901 .................................................. Hot periods... 6/21-7/14 1966...19 of 24 days 90 or higher... 7/04-7/20 1993...14 of 17 days 90 or higher... 7/29-8/19 2002...17 of 22 days 90 or higher... 7/23-8/17 1944...19 of 26 days 90 or higher... 7/12-7/23 1952...11 of 12 days 90 or higher... 9/23-9/04 1953...12 of 12 days 90 or higher... 7/27-8/13 1896...14 of 18 days 90 or higher... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Got popped today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, uncle W said: longest 90 degree day streaks... #.....max.....dates 12...102...8/24-9/4 1953 11.....98...7/23-8/2 1999 10...102...7/7-7/16 1993 10.....98...8/4-8/13 1896 9.......98...8/11-8/19 2002 9.....104...7/13-7/21 1977 9.....101...7/6-7/14 1966 9.......94...7/5-7/13 1944 8.....102...8/10-8/17 1944 8.......97...7/29-8/5 2002 8.......98...8/2-8/9 1980 8.......98...8/28-9/4 1973 8.....100...6/26-7/3 1901 .................................................. Hot periods... 6/21-7/14 1966...19 of 24 days 90 or higher... 7/04-7/20 1993...14 of 17 days 90 or higher... 7/29-8/19 2002...17 of 22 days 90 or higher... 7/23-8/17 1944...19 of 26 days 90 or higher... 7/12-7/23 1952...11 of 12 days 90 or higher... 9/23-9/04 1953...12 of 12 days 90 or higher... 7/27-8/13 1896...14 of 18 days 90 or higher... That streak in 1999 didn't even have the hottest temps- which were near July 4th weekend when we hit 101 on back to back days. Look at how 1944 and 2002 both had multiple long streaks (and there is the 11 year pattern showing itself again.) Was it in 1966 that JFK hit 100+ on 4 consecutive days? I know EWR hit 100+ 5 times in a row in 1993 (including 105 twice) and 9 times in total that summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I really dislike the new WeatherTAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Queens College mesonet station now online. It's a higher rooftop sensor so there will be some temperature variability from the surface depending on the weather conditions. Good spot to catch some higher wind gusts. The webcam view is fantastic looking toward Manhattan. http://www.nysmesonet.org/mesonow#?stid=QUEE Elevation 54.6 meters / 179 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 last year's hottest temperature reached 96 in July and August...2015 and 2014 came in September.... NYC's highest temperature and month. 2016...........96.................July/Aug... 2015...........97.................September 2014...........92.................September 2013...........98.................July 2012...........100...............July 2011...........104...............July 2010...........103...............July 2009...........92.................April/Aug. 2008...........96.................June/July 2007...........92.................July/August 2006...........97.................August 2005...........99.................August 2004...........91.................June 2003...........94.................July 2002...........98.................August 2001...........103...............August 2000...........93.................May 1999...........101...............July 1998...........93.................July 1997...........97.................July 1996...........96.................May 1995...........102...............July 1994...........98.................June 1993...........102...............July 1992...........93.................May/July 1991...........102...............July 1990...........95.................July 1989...........96.................July 1988...........99.................July/Aug. 1987...........97.................May 1986...........98.................July 1985...........95.................August 1984...........96.................June 1983...........99.................September 1982...........98.................July 1981...........96.................July 1980...........102...............July 1979...........95.................July/Aug. 1978...........95.................July 1977...........104...............July 1976...........96.................April 1975...........98.................August 1974...........95.................July 1973...........98.................August 1972...........94.................July/Aug. 1971...........96.................July 1970...........94.................July/Aug/Sept. 1969...........97.................May 1968...........98.................July 1967...........96.................June 1966...........103...............July 1965...........95.................June 1964...........99.................June/July 1963...........98.................July 1962...........99.................May. 1961...........97.................July 1960...........91.................July/Aug. 1959...........97.................June 1958...........93.................July .. Some other years... 1881...........101...............September 1895...........97.................September 1898...........100...............July 1901...........100...............July 1902...........90................July 1911...........100...............July 1914...........95.................September 1915...........94.................September 1918...........104...............August 1921...........96.................September 1925...........99.................June 1926...........100...............July 1929...........99.................September 1930...........102...............July 1931...........99.................September 1932...........96.................September 1933...........102...............July 1934...........101...............June 1936...........106...............July 1937...........102...............July 1944...........102...............August 1948...........103...............August 1949...........102...............July 1950...........95.................June 1952...........100...............June 1953...........102...............September 1954...........100...............July 1955...........100...............July/Aug. 1957...........101...............July The latest date for the hottest annual temperature is 97 on 9/23/1895... 95 on 9/22/1914 99 9/11/1983...The earliest date is 96 on 4/18/1976... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Late August into early September 1953 is still the king of all late season heat waves. It's one of the few heat records which the 2010's haven't been able to beat yet. Newark highs 8-24...90 8-25...93 8-26...91 8-27...93 8-28...100 8-29...100 8-30...100 8-31...102 9-1....96 9-2....105 9-3....94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Looking good so far at let's see what happens in the afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Late August into early September 1953 is still the king of all late season heat waves. It's one of the few heat records which the 2010's haven't been able to beat yet. Newark highs 8-24...90 8-25...93 8-26...91 8-27...93 8-28...100 8-29...100 8-30...100 8-31...102 9-1....96 9-2....105 9-3....94 This reminded me, remember how hot September of 2015 started out? Some brutally hot and humid days. Didn't match this obviously, but it was a yet another torch month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Late August into early September 1953 is still the king of all late season heat waves. It's one of the few heat records which the 2010's haven't been able to beat yet. Newark highs 8-24...90 8-25...93 8-26...91 8-27...93 8-28...100 8-29...100 8-30...100 8-31...102 9-1....96 9-2....105 9-3....94 53 had its cool nights also...this was before the heat island doubled in size... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: This reminded me, remember how hot September of 2015 started out? Some brutally hot and humid days. Didn't match this obviously, but it was a yet another torch month. Yeah, several daily record highs and the +5 September. But we still haven't been able to join the 100 degree after 8-25 club since 1993. Only 4 years of 100 degree or greater readings this late in 1948, 1953, 1973, and 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, bluewave said: Yeah, several daily record highs and the +5 September. But we still haven't been able to join the 100 degree after 8-25 club since 1993. could more moisture be lowering the chances to get that hot that late? our recent hot september days were also humid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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