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Our area was only a few degrees colder than Jacksonville this morning.

 

RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
800 AM EDT THU MAR 16 2017

...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT JACKSONVILLE THIS MORNING...

A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF 28 DEGREES WAS SET AT THE JACKSONVILLE
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT THIS MORNING. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 30
SET IN 1988.
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33 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Our area was only a few degrees colder than Jacksonville this morning.

 


RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE JACKSONVILLE FL
800 AM EDT THU MAR 16 2017

...RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE SET AT JACKSONVILLE THIS MORNING...

A RECORD LOW TEMPERATURE OF 28 DEGREES WAS SET AT THE JACKSONVILLE
INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT THIS MORNING. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 30
SET IN 1988.

Amazing. Why indeed didn't we go lower with -16C 850mb temps? Always want to learn.

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7 hours ago, nzucker said:

Yes, they were still getting light snow tonight. They should get a couple inches with the overrunning/late blooming coastal on Saturday. The BGM airport is at hIgh elevation and will snow well into April.

They had a freak lake effect streamer in November that really got them rolling with 25" I believe. My uncles house about 20 miles south in Susquehanna county totally missed that event so it was supper isolated. 

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Anyone remember tracking this storm? This is still the 'one that got away' for me.  Sub 960mb at our latitude.  Did a little bit of a stall. Dropped like 45mb in 24 hours. Put that through the benchmark and forget about it. This was a late March event too. So nothing is fully over yet. 

https://weather.com/storms/winter/news/winter-storm-east-coast-new-england-blizzard-possible-20140324

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45 minutes ago, tdp146 said:

Anyone remember tracking this storm? This is still the 'one that got away' for me.  Sub 960mb at our latitude.  Did a little bit of a stall. Dropped like 45mb in 24 hours. Put that through the benchmark and forget about it. This was a late March event too. So nothing is fully over yet. 

https://weather.com/storms/winter/news/winter-storm-east-coast-new-england-blizzard-possible-20140324

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This was an incredible looking storm. It was a beautiful sight.

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Just now, BxEngine said:

Wut

I posted a snowmap... in the model discussion thread that I created.. specifically for model banter... it says "model banter" in the headlining... a snowmap is model banter IMO, it was deleted and a post from forky said "no snow maps"... I posted here in the banter thread requesting an explanation as to why my model banter thread was all of a sudden not allowing snowmaps.. and if this was going to be enforced for everyone.. that post was subsiquetly also deleted..... 

 

I'm confused... 

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this is the 00z euro run from the night of the blizzard:  17274570_10208278378386263_1361481064_n.png?oh=28f7e590e59ea783daefa57d591b6d87&oe=58CDC16A

 

we know for a fact the euro was forecasting sleet based on this cross section:

 

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yet the wxbell snow map showed almost 20" anyway. so the map counts sleet as snow and is therefore USELESS

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1 minute ago, forkyfork said:

this is the 00z euro run from the night of the blizzard:  17274570_10208278378386263_1361481064_n.png?oh=28f7e590e59ea783daefa57d591b6d87&oe=58CDC16A

 

we know for a fact the euro was forecasting sleet based on this cross section:

 

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yet the wxbell snow map showed almost 20" anyway. so the map counts sleet as snow and is therefore USELESS

Supposedly they're redoing how the maps show snow/sleet etc but I never look at those except to LOL. The soundings and mid level low tracks are much more important. To me those showed mixing once those started trending west. 

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5 minutes ago, jm1220 said:

Supposedly they're redoing how the maps show snow/sleet etc but I never look at those except to LOL. The soundings and mid level low tracks are much more important. To me those showed mixing once those started trending west. 

00z euro verified to the exact inch up here

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47 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Sometimes we can do very well like 12/13/88.

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I took that day off and went skiing at Hunter.  Just a dry cold day up there.  On the way home we started to hit a little snow on the ground around the Nassau-Queens border and caught up to where snow was still falling (and plenty on the ground) by the Nassau-Suffolk line.  Quite the surprise.

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55 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Thats because you had no mixing. If NYC was all snow the qpf matched the euro well and would have been 20"

To be fair, the precip type also matched the 0Z Euro well.  The Euro forecast was good.  The rendering onto snow maps lost something in the translation.

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13 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

I took that day off and went skiing at Hunter.  Just a dry cold day up there.  On the way home we started to hit a little snow on the ground around the Nassau-Queens border and caught up to where snow was still falling (and plenty on the ground) by the Nassau-Suffolk line.  Quite the surprise.

That one was really tough for the snow fans further west to miss. NYC went on to finish with only 8.1" that winter for the lowest seasonal snowfall total of the 1980's.

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14 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

To be fair, the precip type also matched the 0Z Euro well.  The Euro forecast was good.  The rendering onto snow maps lost something in the translation.

The 12z Euro on the 13th was about 3 hrs too slow with the changeover to sleet since it had the low too far east. But you could see that a changeover to sleet would occur on the Euro soundings. Losing 3 hours of heavy snow to sleet made all the difference in the final accumulations.

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6 minutes ago, bluewave said:

The 12z Euro on the 13th was about 3 hrs too slow with the changeover to sleet since it had the low too far east. But you could see that a changeover to sleet would occur on the Euro soundings. Losing 3 hours of heavy snow to sleet made all the difference in the final accumulations.

Thanks.  I have trouble lining up the time scale on the cross sections.

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37 minutes ago, NorthShoreWx said:

To be fair, the precip type also matched the 0Z Euro well.  The Euro forecast was good.  The rendering onto snow maps lost something in the translation.

ryan maue purposely coded the maps to show sleet as snow so he'd get more money from dumb snow weenies. full stop.

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