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March 13/14th PSU Storm


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1 minute ago, ers-wxman1 said:

GFS is marvelous. Doesn't get any better for this system. Classic track and remains consistent with its previous run.

 

1 minute ago, Deck Pic said:

Great run.  Even with the snow hole over my backyard.

La la lock it up! ;)

Good to see both of you liking this run like me

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URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
552 PM EDT Sun Mar 12 2017


MDZ003>006-503-505-507-VAZ028-030-031-040-501-505>507-WVZ051>053-
130600-
/O.CON.KLWX.WS.W.0003.170313T2300Z-170314T1800Z/
Washington-Frederick MD-Carroll-Northern Baltimore-
Northwest Montgomery-Northwest Howard-Northwest Harford-
Frederick VA-Warren-Clarke-Rappahannock-Northern Fauquier-
Western Loudoun-Eastern Loudoun-Northern Virginia Blue Ridge-
Morgan-Berkeley-Jefferson-
552 PM EDT Sun Mar 12 2017

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM MONDAY TO
2 PM EDT TUESDAY...

* PRECIPITATION TYPE...Snow.

* ACCUMULATIONS...Snow accumulation of 8 to 12 inches.

* TIMING...Snow will overspread the area Monday evening and
  persist through Tuesday morning.

* IMPACTS...The heavy snow will make many roads impassable and
  may produce power outages due to the weight of the snow on
  tree limbs and power lines.

* WINDS...Northeast 5 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.

* TEMPERATURES...In the upper 20s.
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1 minute ago, yoda said:

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Baltimore MD/Washington DC
552 PM EDT Sun Mar 12 2017


MDZ003>006-503-505-507-VAZ028-030-031-040-501-505>507-WVZ051>053-
130600-
/O.CON.KLWX.WS.W.0003.170313T2300Z-170314T1800Z/
Washington-Frederick MD-Carroll-Northern Baltimore-
Northwest Montgomery-Northwest Howard-Northwest Harford-
Frederick VA-Warren-Clarke-Rappahannock-Northern Fauquier-
Western Loudoun-Eastern Loudoun-Northern Virginia Blue Ridge-
Morgan-Berkeley-Jefferson-
552 PM EDT Sun Mar 12 2017

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 7 PM MONDAY TO
2 PM EDT TUESDAY...

* PRECIPITATION TYPE...Snow.

* ACCUMULATIONS...Snow accumulation of 8 to 12 inches.

* TIMING...Snow will overspread the area Monday evening and
  persist through Tuesday morning.

* IMPACTS...The heavy snow will make many roads impassable and
  may produce power outages due to the weight of the snow on
  tree limbs and power lines.

* WINDS...Northeast 5 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph.

* TEMPERATURES...In the upper 20s.

They've lowered temps in that warning

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1 minute ago, wawarriors4 said:

Still not sure really what to expect down here in Spotsylvania, near EZF. No Watch or Warning for our county. Feels like it could be 2 inches with A lot of rain or 10 inches with some sleet and rain. My hedge is lower down this way. It's been intriguing to follow this storm.

I feel you. We're one of the few that has nothing, not even advisory. 

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So I figured I would gather all of the most recent snow maps for every model... kind of shows how big the differences are...

 

First, the big boys...

 

PVUmQTh.jpg

 

sIXhPiA.jpg

VXUIf7I.jpg

2bylWxb.jpg

 

Then the Canadian

 

1Ly2Qzq.jpg

 

Then the NAMs

 

bKthijV.jpg

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Here are the ranges for some major points:

 

DC... Min 3" in the NAM 12k, Max 11" in the Euro Kuchera

MoCo... Min 6" NAM 12k, Max 16" in the Canadian/Euro

Baltimore... Min 4" NAM 12k/Nam4k, Max 15" in the Canadian

Fredricksburg... Min 3" Euro Kuchera, Max 11" GFS 10:1

Northern PG... Min 3" NAM 12km, Max 11" Euro Kuchera

Frederick, MD... Min 11" Nam 12km, Max 16" Euro Kuchera

 

 

 

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There is still no consensus. Kinda crazy. There are so many locations (not just here but also up the coast) that are getting massively different outputs on various snowfall maps. Some show close to 2 feet, others show 2 inches, and everything in between. Wild. Thought the GFS and NAM would have been better given how much digging takes place.

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3 minutes ago, supernovasky said:

So I figured I would gather all of the most recent snow maps for every model... kind of shows how big the differences are...

 

First, the big boys...

 

PVUmQTh.jpg

 

sIXhPiA.jpg

VXUIf7I.jpg

2bylWxb.jpg

 

Then the Canadian

 

1Ly2Qzq.jpg

 

Then the NAMs

 

bKthijV.jpg

lMB7tmb.jpg

 

Here are the ranges for some major points:

 

DC... Min 3" in the NAM 12k, Max 11" in the Euro Kuchera

MoCo... Min 6" NAM 12k, Max 16" in the Canadian/Euro

Baltimore... Min 4" NAM 12k/Nam4k, Max 15" in the Canadian

Fredricksburg... Min 3" Euro Kuchera, Max 11" GFS 10:1

Northern PG... Min 3" NAM 12km, Max 11" Euro Kuchera

Frederick, MD... Min 11" Nam 12km, Max 16" Euro Kuchera

 

 

 

You're new here so....

You never leave Winchester out of your data.  Never!

:P 

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17 minutes ago, PennQuakerGirl said:

I do get the sense that this will be a relative now-casting event (in terms of pockets of deeper powder), correct?

Oh! And on the powder note: what kind of snow will this likely be? Powder fluffy stuff? White paste?

It really depends where you are and the temps where you are which is effected by elevation. We all have micro climates where we live. And most of us know what to expect in a storm like this. The only thing I am really looking at at this point is QPF and storm track. From there I know what will happen based on my climo.

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5 minutes ago, supernovasky said:

So I figured I would gather all of the most recent snow maps for every model... kind of shows how big the differences are...

 

First, the big boys...

 

PVUmQTh.jpg

 

sIXhPiA.jpg

VXUIf7I.jpg

2bylWxb.jpg

 

Then the Canadian

 

1Ly2Qzq.jpg

 

Then the NAMs

 

bKthijV.jpg

lMB7tmb.jpg

 

Here are the ranges for some major points:

 

DC... Min 3" in the NAM 12k, Max 11" in the Euro Kuchera

MoCo... Min 6" NAM 12k, Max 16" in the Canadian/Euro

Baltimore... Min 4" NAM 12k/Nam4k, Max 15" in the Canadian

Fredricksburg... Min 3" Euro Kuchera, Max 11" GFS 10:1

Northern PG... Min 3" NAM 12km, Max 11" Euro Kuchera

Frederick, MD... Min 11" Nam 12km, Max 16" Euro Kuchera

 

 

 

Thanks for taking time to do this. Good analysis.

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There's plenty of consensus. The apparent differences all appear due to mesoscale features like banding from what I can see. Cyclogenesis and storm track are pretty locked in among the globals. And none of the globals are really going to nail the banding. It's a nowcast thing mostly. This is why snow forecasts are always a range.

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