ayuud11 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-WXFREAK Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 whats up with the RGEM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 850 get ready cold. Great sight for major hybrid lake enhanced storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, CNY-WXFREAK said: whats up with the RGEM? 7 minutes ago, CNY-WXFREAK said: whats up with the RGEM? Haven't seen it. Can u post it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 So it's pretty much everything against the GFS... I'd still go with 5-10" across most of upstate with 10-15" across the south shore of L.O. and from BGM to Albany. My guesses: KBUF - 7" KROC - 12" KSYR - 10" KART - 7" KBGM - 15" KALB - 17" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Anyone got euro map for storm finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGM Blizzard Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 12z RGEM at H48 [last hr of the run]. Looks similar to GGEM save maybe tad east... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 1 minute ago, WesterlyWx said: So it's pretty much everything against the GFS... I'd still go with 5-10" across most of upstate with 10-15" across the south shore of L.O. and from BGM to Albany. KBUF - 7" KROC - 12" KSYR - 10" KART - 7" KBGM - 15" KALB - 17" Here is my thinking.. KBUF - 12" KROC - 22" KSYR - 14" KART - 12" KBGM - 15" KALB - 17" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 17 minutes ago, tim123 said: Anyone got euro map for storm finals 10:1 kuchie (taking into account ratios, but always overdone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-WXFREAK Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 GFS has KSYR at 1/4" liq equ, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 10 minutes ago, WesterlyWx said: Here is my thinking.. KBUF - 8 KROC - 14 KSYR - 12 KART - 6 KBGM - 18 KALB - 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 1 minute ago, CNY-WXFREAK said: GFS has KSYR at 1/4" liq equ, lol! It must be trolling lol.. long live the KING!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Conservative 15 to 1 would give roc 18 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-WXFREAK Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 It looks like the Kuchera method is definitely the way to go due to Ratios which will be high! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorizer Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 9 minutes ago, WesterlyWx said: 10:1 kuchie (taking into account ratios, but always overdone) Aren't these the same maps?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 1 minute ago, Gorizer said: Aren't these the same maps?? Yes they were. My apologies. Fixed now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Anyone know what winds are like on euro for roc could get pretty gusty I think. 40 MPh gusts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-WXFREAK Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 We all better hope the GFS is in LA LA Land, cause its straight ugly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, CNY-WXFREAK said: It looks like the Kuchera method is definitely the way to go due to Ratios which will be high! Ratios will be higher due to the cold and deep layer moisture in the DGZ. However the Kuchie algorithm is certainly overdone. If you seriously think people in the Catskills are getting 35" and the lumberjacks in the Whites of NH are gonna see 40"+ think again. I do think 15:1 ratios would be a pretty good estimate to use at this time. With QPF from BUF to SYR around 1-1.5" QPF a widespread 12"-18" looks likely on the Euro Verbatim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixny Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Buffalo upgrading all to Warnings except North Country. 12 to 18 south of Lake Ontario .SHORT TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT/... ...SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM TO IMPACT THE AREA MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY... Our attention during the first 48 hours of this period will be squarely on a complex winter storm that will produce some significant impacts on our region. On the synoptic scale...a strong mid-level trough will drop southeastward from central Canada and interact with an initially separate strong shortwave lifting northeastward from the Tennessee Valley...with all available guidance continuing to suggest that the main mid level trough will interact with and eventually absorb this latter feature into the eastern part of its circulation. At the surface... all of this will translate into an initial primary low over the Ohio Valley lifting into western Pennsylvania and weakening Monday night and early Tuesday...while transferring its energy to a rapidly developing Nor`easter that will track northeastward just offshore of the Mid Atlantic and New England coastlines Tuesday and Wednesday. Out in advance of this system...its attendant warm air advection regime will spread an initial round of widespread light to moderate snow across the region Monday night and Tuesday...which for most areas should result in a general 3 to 6 inches of accumulation...with the greatest accums from this likely to lie across areas south of Lake Ontario...which will lie closer to weakening primary low as well as the developing coastal system. Then as we progress through later Tuesday afternoon and night... our region will come more under the influence of the broadening region of wraparound snow attendant to the strengthening Nor`easter...with lake enhancement also developing south of the lakes as a colder and increasingly well-aligned northerly flow develops across our region... and takes advantage of the moisture-rich environment that will be in place. The wraparound and lake enhanced snows will then persist into Wednesday morning...before gradually diminishing from west to east through the rest of Wednesday as the coastal low lifts out into the Canadian Maritimes...and its attendant field of deeper wraparound moisture and lift recedes off to the east. With the 12z/12 guidance suite continuing to slowly come into better agreement on the track and timing of this system...it is appearing increasingly likely that areas south of Lake Ontario will receive a general 8-12" of total accumulation out of this system between Monday night and Wednesday...with lake enhancement likely boosting totals up into the 12-18" range across areas immediately south and southeast of Lake Ontario. Given both this and the likelihood of additional blowing and drifting snow as the event unfolds...at this point we feel the projected impacts justify an upgrade of the existing Winter Storm Watches to Winter Storm Warnings for all areas south of Lake Ontario. Meanwhile across the North Country...a greater degree of uncertainty still exists with respect to potential snowfall amounts... with this uncertainty enough to preclude an upgrade there for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Pretty wild reading thru this thread. We have German models, some guy named Kuchera, a 2 inch passing snow shower on GFS, 40 inch lumberjacks, and a building consensus for a warning level snows for all. Good stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, Buffalo Bumble said: Pretty wild reading thru this thread. We have German models, some guy named Kuchera, a 2 inch passing snow shower on GFS, 40 inch lumberjacks, and a building consensus for a warning level snows for all. Good stuff... This is what happens for the first area wide possible warning snowfall of the season.... in the middle of March... NWS just upgraded the Watches to Warnings... 7-14" for the BUF area (N/S Erie, Wyoming, Genesee),... 8-16" along south shore (Niagara, Orleans, Monroe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I know it's nit picking but those totals according to the warning should be 11 to 18. They didn't at it up correctly. Also says gust to 40 so getting close to blizzard range. Any further west with future runs of a stronger low I think it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Anyone look at euro winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 QPF from 12z Euro for those who are wondering.... probably 15-1 ratios across most of upstate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, tim123 said: Anyone look at euro winds Not all that impressive... not here anyways, New England is a different story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Later in period I think once low is east of Boston wind crank. Plus that map is in knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNY-WXFREAK Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 how does one block another poster who annoys the **** out of you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochesterdave Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 I think a little enthusiasm is great. We are all wx weenies. Let's just try and have fun! IDK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim123 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Am I annoying someone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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