moneypitmike Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Off to bed. DST models runs, ftl. I guess I'll be drinking my morning coffee an hour after the EC comes out though. Fingers are crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 My first time peeking at all of the modeling in 24 hrs. It looks like best mid level snows would perhaps be as far west as ALB/Berks. I don't see this screwing anyone in eastern portions. It's an absolute bomb. The front end thump smokes everyone. I don't see any cf circlejerk being the main emphasis. Perhaps the best combination of snow and wind I've seen in models in quite some time. The front end thump drops 1.2" in 6 hours over E MA. Meanwhile, 50-70 kt winds even miles inland to 495. This could be one of the best March snowstorms in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 No one and I mean no one in the met community ever references the 18z ukmet. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, moneypitmike said: Off to bed. DST models runs, ftl. I guess I'll be drinking my morning coffee an hour after the EC comes out though. Fingers are crossed. I just slept all day. Popped a flew sleep aids to try and get back on schedule. Hoping I wake up around 2-3am. Would leave me a few hours to look at modeling, shower, get ready for work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, weathafella said: No one and I mean no one in the met community ever references the 18z ukmet. Why? Because it's not available anywhere? I don't know. I'm just saying what it showed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, JC-CT said: Because it's not available anywhere? I don't know. I'm just saying what it showed. Yeah I know but truthfully I think ukmet generally blows. It's had those scores for many years but I named it crazy uncle due to its propensity for wild swings. I probably call it a night after the NAM comes in and check out everything else tomorrow which should be hectic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 This whole ukmet discussion seems way out of balance considering the preponderance of agreement in the other models. Furthest west model (GFS?) take the slp over the canal. Almost everyone else in agreement that its gonna be somewhere between ACK and the benchmark. Bit of a waste of time debating it. Of course, if it verified it would be quite the coup. Not holding my breath on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, JC-CT said: lol at those CMC scores. Tossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 There could definitely be a screw zone. Nearly impossible to judge where. But even that screw zone should be safe for 8-12". Would be somewhere between ALB and Hartford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoth Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, sbos_wx said: Good lord. hr 60 on the 12z euro is porn. Probably one of the best 6 hrs I've ever seen modeled on the Euro this close to a storm. Combination of wind and snow at the same time. Jesus H. Yeah I was Googling images of the Euro from previous blizzards, and that is right up there with the best of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, weathafella said: Yeah I know but truthfully I think ukmet generally blows. It's had those scores for many years but I named it crazy uncle due to its propensity for wild swings. I probably call it a night after the NAM comes in and check out everything else tomorrow which should be hectic. Make sure to check the GFS also. It to will give an idea where everything is starting to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, J Paul Gordon said: This whole ukmet discussion seems way out of balance considering the preponderance of agreement in the other models. Furthest west model (GFS?) take the slp over the canal. Almost everyone else in agreement that its gonna be somewhere between ACK and the benchmark. Bit of a waste of time debating it. Of course, if it verified it would be quite the coup. Not holding my breath on that. To you-not to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, dendrite said: lol at those CMC scores. Tossed. I know, right? That's 24 hours though. They fully admit their suckiness in the 120 hour scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Greg said: Make sure to check the GFS also. It to will give an idea where everything is starting to go. We leave our phones and other internet devices downstairs-no electronics in the bedroom. I'll read for awhile but will probably slip downstairs at 11:45....lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, weathafella said: To you-not to me. Yeah, and how is the GFS the furthest west model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hoth said: Yeah I was Googling images of the Euro from previous blizzards, and that is right up there with the best of them. Usually we see images like this 100 hrs out and say it's overdone. Seeing it be that intense during the heaviest snow is a rarity. Even if we don't realize those numbers, it's a big sign the wind will likely be roaring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 minute ago, weathafella said: We leave our phones and other internet devices downstairs-no electronics in the bedroom. I'll read for awhile but will probably slip downstairs at 11:45....lol. Good luck Jerry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowHole413 Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 You guys are buggin. This storm has a perfect track for all sne, far and wet precip field, cold in place. This is coming and going to come hard. Should be one of the best widespread storms of the 2010's decade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Roosta/Don had me thinking...will this be in a top 3 NESIS for March? Lots of people effected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Paul Gordon Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, weathafella said: To you-not to me. Is the merit in the debate itself or in the likelihood of it verifying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 I'm with Jer tonight....NAM then bed. Hopefully that's not equivalent to Falcons fans going to bed in the 3rd quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Nobody is bugging. We've seen big modeling changes this close before, plenty of times. We are just analyzing what we see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, J Paul Gordon said: Is the merit in the debate itself or in the likelihood of it verifying? Hard to separate but it's fun to flush it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, Powderboy413 said: You guys are buggin. This storm has a perfect track for all sne, far and wet precip field, cold in place. This is coming and going to come hard. Should be one of the best widespread storms of the 2010 decade This will be a tremendous storm for those who have their expectations in check. That's not to say there won't be complications with these mid level tracks. It's a little funky and unpredictable. Some will lose, some will win in this one. But everyone will see a very good storm for March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 SREFS give a good swath of 1.50+ all snow...fwiw. That's a lot even for them. But walked back some from 15z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Let's put it this way. 2007 has repeatedly shown up as a top analog. That would make lots of posters unhappy. Not saying it will happen, but it could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, weathafella said: No one and I mean no one in the met community ever references the 18z ukmet. Why? Are you shook? Jerry you are getting crushed. The QPF is huge...even wet snow will be big. 12-18" at least. Chance of 24". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, dendrite said: I'm with Jer tonight....NAM then bed. Hopefully that's not equivalent to Falcons fans going to bed in the 3rd quarter. I have no idea how snow days work at the new job.. Really wondering about Tues/Weds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Just now, powderfreak said: Are you shook? Jerry you are getting crushed. The QPF is huge...even wet snow will be big. 12-18" at least. Chance of 24". No never shook-it always is what it is. If we inexplicably lose this my life work wise is far less complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 6 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Roosta/Don had me thinking...will this be in a top 3 NESIS for March? Lots of people effected A Pre postmortem: 93 was a CAT5 60 was a CAT4 1888 who really cares. Find it hard to believe the 6' amounts in the HV. Been awhile since I scanned the KU book, in fact I broke it out last July sunning trying to cool off...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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