meatwad Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 they lowered the totals a tad Winter Weather Advisory URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Pittsburgh PA 932 PM EDT Mon Mar 13 2017 OHZ049-050-PAZ014-020>022-029-031-073-075-WVZ001>003-021-509- 140945- /O.CON.KPBZ.WW.Y.0014.000000T0000Z-170315T0300Z/ Harrison-Jefferson-Butler-Beaver-Allegheny-Armstrong-Washington- Greene-Westmoreland-Fayette-Hancock-Brooke-Ohio-Marion-Monongalia- Including the cities of Cadiz, Steubenville, Butler, Aliquippa, Beaver Falls, Ambridge, Monaca, Pittsburgh Metro Area, Kittanning, Ford City, Washington, Canonsburg, Waynesburg, Murrysville, Greensburg, New Kensington, Uniontown, Weirton, Follansbee, Wellsburg, Wheeling, Fairmont, and Morgantown 932 PM EDT Mon Mar 13 2017 ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 11 PM EDT TUESDAY... * SNOW ACCUMULATIONS...3 to 5 inches. * TIMING...Overnight through Tuesday, with the heaviest snow through early morning. * IMPACTS...The heavy snow will cause hazardous travel conditions along with isolated power outages. * WINDS...North 10 to 15 mph with gusts up to 25 mph. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A Winter Weather Advisory for snow means that periods of snow will cause primarily travel difficulties. Be prepared for snow covered roads and limited visibilities, and use caution while driving. Please report snowfall by calling 412-262-1988, posting to the NWS Pittsburgh Facebook page, or using Twitter @NWSPITTSBURGH && $$ I'm not expecting 3-5, most likely C-1" I rather have 60 and sunny instead of this cold and dry crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psunate1977 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I'm sorry, I know what the models show, but I find it hard to believe that we are going to get snow for almost 12 hours, with a few hours of heavier snow and only going to get 2-3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, psunate1977 said: I'm sorry, I know what the models show, but I find it hard to believe that we are going to get snow for almost 12 hours, with a few hours of heavier snow and only going to get 2-3" latest models show barely two inches. This storm is toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Yay!! my meeting was canceled tomorrow because of the snowstorm. Will be home in the AM. What will I need for the big storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 minute ago, north pgh said: Yay!! my meeting was canceled tomorrow because of the snowstorm. Will be home in the AM. What will I need for the big storm? Might be able to handle the total snowfall with this guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mailman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Sharp cutoff. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeB_01 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, north pgh said: Not even enough to give us a precip number. Sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I am glad at least we have members in our group that have a sense of humor. This is a tough time but it will pass like it always does. I have to tell another funny story. I was at my bowling league tonight and people were talking about cancellations from the snow tomorrow morning. I told people it would not be too bad because the heavier snow will be East of us. One guy said "yes but I have to go to work over there tomorrow" I said where do you have to go to work and he said "Elizabeth off of 51". He heard they were going to get a foot over that way. So for all you people down in Elizabeth and up in Cranberry enjoy your foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, north pgh said: I'm just waiting for that big hole that's over the Ohio/WV border to eventually make its way up here. That would be fitting. This is like watching a team getting killed and yet you just keep watching just to see how bad it ends up getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 I think I just saw Jim Cantore over on the North Shore waiting for the snow to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, north pgh said: I think I just saw Jim Cantore over on the North Shore waiting for the snow to start. The last time I can remember TWC being in Pittsburgh for anything was for that January 1994 snowstorm I believe. The guy that was here was actually from the area but I can't remember his name. I can picture him though. Thought it was pretty cool how we seemed to be at the center of the weather universe that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psunate1977 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, north pgh said: I think I just saw Jim Cantore over on the North Shore waiting for the snow to start. Poor Jim's career that bad now he is getting sent here for snowstorms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 You almost have to laugh at this trainwreck of a storm. Even last week, the evolution was really disjointed and slow, and we are seeing that tonight. The Canadian had this pegged from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, blackngoldrules said: The last time I can remember TWC being in Pittsburgh for anything was for that January 1994 snowstorm I believe. The guy that was here was actually from the area but I can't remember his name. I can picture him though. Thought it was pretty cool how we seemed to be at the center of the weather universe that day. Jeff Morrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mailman said: Jeff Morrow? Yep. that's him. I knew as soon as I saw his name I'd remember it. Well, you remembered it actually. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 8 minutes ago, psunate1977 said: Poor Jim's career that bad now he is getting sent here for snowstorms? Wherever they send him, you can bet he'll do some pushups on the air just to showoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 This really is the most appropriate end to winter for us. Everyone else hits their seasonal mean in one swoop while winter leaves as it came in: with a whimper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Looking at the radar, we continue to split the uprights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Winter Weather Advisory has been cancelled. Another one in the bust category. Here's my forecast now. Temps are supposed to go back up again next week. I want spring now. Goodnight folks. Overnight A chance of snow, mainly after 3am. Cloudy, with a low around 29. East wind around 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible. Tuesday Snow showers, mainly after 1pm. High near 30. Northeast wind 5 to 11 mph becoming northwest in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of less than one inch possible. Tuesday Night Snow showers before 8pm, then snow likely between 8pm and 9pm, then snow showers likely after 9pm. Low around 16. Northwest wind 10 to 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psunate1977 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Make sure you go look out windows upon waking up for a surprise this morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCity08 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Not a single flake lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Only in the SWPA... lol what a total and epic fail! I expected to wake up to little, had a dusting, but once I hit 28 South it was in the mid 30s and absolutely nothing on the ground. The writing was on the wall for the last 36 hours at least, and you could see totals getting slashed as models caught onto the snow hole that setup over our area. And now it has begun, everyone at work talking about how we were supposed to get 6, 8, 12 inches and there's nothing blah blah blah.. Anyways, we stand to possibly see more snow tonight from Lake Effect bands than from this storm. Guess that goes to show how utterly futile this winter has been when the lakes are still open for business in mid March! Anyways, nice write up from Fries in the NWS discussion about all the factors that came together to produce the perfect NON storm: NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... Quite a complicated situation is ongoing across the area as a myriad of factors seem to be playing out to keep semi- stationary bands of snow across the western and southeastern portions of the area all the while skunking Pittsburgh itself. First and foremost, dry air just has simply been impossible to get rid of. Owing to the 00z sounding indicating a chasm between temperatures and dewpoints in the lower third of the troposphere, substantial moist advection in that layer would need to become manifest. With semi-continual southeasterly downslope flow off the ridges that has edged northeast with time from a source region with surface dewpoints in the teens, this just hasn`t happened. But why might that be? Earlier in the night, some interesting jet dynamics seemed to be at play whereby the upper jet streak driving a mesolow across northern Ohio combined with a deformation band across central and eastern Ohio gradually started to fade as it slowly oozed northward. This allowed for the western band in the CWA to lose is eastward impetus, thus stalling largely over Ohio as the upper level system started to transition from a weakly positive to weakly negatively-tiled structure. As this occurred, the southern jet streak rapidly become the main forcing mechanism driving the upper levels and given that it`s axis generally extended through the southeasternmost portion of our area, this kept the right entrance region limited to basically areas east and south of Morgantown. Thus, a combination of easterly downslope, unfavorable jet dynamics, a near stationary fading deformation zone, and moisture transport limited to the southeastern ridges, the focusing mechanism for precipitation outside of central Ohio and the ridges really just...evaporated. Because of this, the warnings and advisories for the area were necessarily reworked favoring advisories under the deformation zone in Ohio, and warnings with strong moisture advection into the right entrance region of the strongly-curved upper level jet across the ridges. As said jet lifts northeastward through the day, the surface low will track up the eastern seaboard and surface flow will gradually transition northerly across the area. With ensuing dry advection aloft, there is some chance the dendritic growth layer dries out for a bit while the boundary layer looks rather moist and unstable. This was favored in NAM soundings yet really not in the GFS. If this should occur, some areas of freezing drizzle may be possible. Confidence in this scenario was not anywhere near high enough to include in the forecast at this time, however. As colder air loft by later this afternoon, lapse rates should greatly increase while the dendritic growth layer crashes into the boundary layer. This will allow for northerly flow and increasing snow shower coverage. Much of the area that failed to see much some last night or this morning will finally see some by that juncture. Fries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Hey, see you guys all in 10 days for this one: I really just wish we could move into a warm Spring at this point, this pattern would have been great a month ago, but instead we had 3 lousy months of winter that fade into a cool wet start to Spring, absolute worst pattern progression possible. I'll still hold out hope for a blizzard in early January or Feb followed by a week of cold and re-enforcing shots of snow from clippers next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwilson Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Color me not shocked at all. No flakes, even. Surprised it took NWS that long to get on board. No more storm tracking for me. Winter is over in seven days and it is clear there's nothing good to come from this season. Even the cities are busting with this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 This is comical. Everyone on this board knew we weren't getting any snow. We are the only ones. Local news has egg on their faces. At 11:00 last night they were telling people to stay off the roads today. My wife is stunned as she was told not to come in today and has work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Make sure you go look out windows upon waking up for a surprise this morning... Not surprised at all. You could see this coming yesterday as the totals kept getting cutback....and then the radar last night keeping us in the hole. Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryWX Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Just started to get ice pellets here at 30 degrees. Wind picking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, north pgh said: This is comical. Everyone on this board knew we weren't getting any snow. We are the only ones. Local news has egg on their faces. At 11:00 last night they were telling people to stay off the roads today. My wife is stunned as she was told not to come in today and has work to do. I was so glad all day yesterday I was telling everyone not to expect more than an inch or 2 despite what you are hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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