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Still liking southeast KS the best for later today.  Less storm competition than further north, and better instability.  These storms will be just south of the strongest mid-levels, so storm motion won't be as crazy as areas to the north.  One problem is there's a little less forcing down this way, so it may be harder to get initiation before sunset.  If something can go though it would be worth the gamble.  

Another target would be up in southwest into central MN.  Up here you'll be on the nose of the powerful mid jet, and surface winds are much more backed than down in Iowa.  Instability axis is pretty narrow further north, but it's actually pretty decent with the HRRRRRR showing over 1500J/kg.  

No way I can make it to southeast KS and be back for work tomorrow, and even the southwest into central MN target would be pushing it.  Given the 40-50kt+ storm speeds in both targets I'll probably sit this one out.  If I had tomorrow off I'd be heading for southeast KS and hoping the MN target busts lol.

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1 hour ago, Hoosier said:

True.  This is like the 3rd or 4th time lately with an anomalously far north threat.

Even though things get shunted south with this cold pattern for this upcoming weekend and early next week, I think we are in line for more action by late month. The EML source region this year is in the best conditions for that area that we have seen in years. The lack of STJ as kept that area pristine.

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6 minutes ago, Indystorm said:

It does feel strange to be talking about EML's and not worrying about sufficient moisture which is usually the concern for early season storms.  

The bigger thing to me is, what might happen when we start getting the sufficient and eventually abundant moisture into the region in April/May/June.

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14 minutes ago, Stebo said:

The bigger thing to me is, what might happen when we start getting the sufficient and eventually abundant moisture into the region in April/May/June.

Very true if that dryline moves farther east and we get that capping inversion with abundant moisture.  When it breaks things could really get bad in a hurry in these parts.

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14 minutes ago, Stebo said:

The bigger thing to me is, what might happen when we start getting the sufficient and eventually abundant moisture into the region in April/May/June.

Any chance it quiets down like it did in 2012? Because so far, at least temp and snowfall wise, this year reminds me a lot of that year. Can't speak for actual precip amounts in the winter though. I do know that summer ended up being dry for our area however.

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1 minute ago, NWLinnCountyIA said:

Any chance it quiets down like it did in 2012? Because so far, at least temp and snowfall wise, this year reminds me a lot of that year. Can't speak for actual precip amounts in the winter though. I do know that summer ended up being dry for our area however.

I would look at the current drought monitor for source regions of the EML. I don't recall if things were that dry in that region when we warmed early here in 2012.

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7 minutes ago, Indystorm said:

I would look at the current drought monitor for source regions of the EML. I don't recall if things were that dry in that region when we warmed early here in 2012.

2012 had a big drought in TX and another, small one, across the northern plains. Overall 2012 was drier than it is now. So I guess we shall see.

 

EDIT: that drought expanded to cover everywhere west of the Mississippi all the way to the pacific. I highly doubt we see that again do to the current wave train that has set up for the past several months.

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MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0252  
NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK  
0108 PM CST MON MAR 06 2017  
  
AREAS AFFECTED...PORTIONS OF IOWA  
  
CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...TORNADO WATCH LIKELY   
  
VALID 061908Z - 062145Z  
  
PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...80 PERCENT  
  
SUMMARY...THE RISK FOR SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS AND TORNADOES WILL BE  
INCREASING ACROSS PARTS OF WESTERN IA IN THE GENERAL 2030Z-2200Z  
TIME FRAME AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY SPREAD EASTWARD. THE ISSUANCE OF A  
TORNADO WATCH WILL BE LIKELY DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS.  
  
DISCUSSION...VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY INDICATES HIGH-BASED CUMULUS  
DEVELOPMENT BECOMING INCREASINGLY FOCUSED WITHIN THE DEEP BOUNDARY  
LAYER ACROSS PARTS OF CENTRAL AND EASTERN NE. THIS HIGH-BASED  
CONVECTION IS BEING ENHANCED BY ASCENT WITHIN THE LEFT-EXIT REGION  
OF A MID/HIGH-LEVEL SPEED MAXIMUM ADVANCING NORTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE  
NORTH-CENTRAL STATES. AS LARGE-SCALE ASCENT CONTINUES TO INCREASE, A  
PSEUDO-DRYLINE OVER THE MIDDLE MISSOURI VALLEY REGION WILL CONTINUE  
TO SHARPEN AND SERVE AS A FOCUSED ZONE OF THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT  
IN THE GENERAL 2030Z-2200Z TIME FRAME. WARM-SECTOR PRESSURE FALLS OF  
2.0-2.5 MB PER 2 HOURS HAVE BEEN NOTED ACROSS THE REGION IN  
ASSOCIATION WITH THE STRENGTHENING LARGE-SCALE ASCENT.  
  
AS MIDLEVEL FLOW CONTINUES TO STRENGTHEN, WITH AT LEAST SOME FLOW  
COMPONENT ORTHOGONAL TO THE DRYLINE AND AN APPROACHING BAROCLINIC  
ZONE, INITIALLY DISCRETE/SEMI-DISCRETE SUPERCELL MODES WILL BE  
LIKELY ACROSS WESTERN IA -- AIDED BY 50-65 KT OF EFFECTIVE SHEAR.  
WITH TIME, UPSCALE GROWTH OF THIS ACTIVITY SHOULD FOSTER STORM  
CLUSTERS AND QLCS SEGMENTS SPREADING TOWARD THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER  
INTO THE EVENING HOURS, ESPECIALLY AS THE BAROCLINIC ZONE OVERTAKES  
THE DRYLINE AND ACCELERATES EASTWARD.  
  
WHILE THE MAGNITUDE OF WARM-SECTOR MOISTURE RETURN IS SOMEWHAT  
MODEST (SURFACE DEWPOINTS IN THE MIDDLE 50S), STEEP MIDLEVEL LAPSE  
RATES ATTENDANT TO AN OVERLYING ELEVATED MIXED LAYER PLUME WILL  
SUPPORT SUFFICIENT BUOYANCY (MLCAPE AROUND 750-1250 J/KG) FOR ROBUST  
CONVECTION CAPABLE OF SEVERE HAIL, WIND, AND A FEW TORNADOES. THE  
TORNADO RISK WILL BE RELATIVELY GREATER FOR PERSISTENT SUPERCELL  
STRUCTURES AMID EFFECTIVE SRH AROUND 200-300 M2/S2 IN THE OPEN WARM  
SECTOR, AND PERHAPS WITH LINE-EMBEDDED MESO-VORTICES LATER IN THE  
AFTERNOON/EVENING.  
  
..COHEN/GRAMS.. 03/06/2017  

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1 hour ago, NWLinnCountyIA said:

Any chance it quiets down like it did in 2012? Because so far, at least temp and snowfall wise, this year reminds me a lot of that year. Can't speak for actual precip amounts in the winter though. I do know that summer ended up being dry for our area however.

There is always a chance but considering the active pattern across the country, I would be surprised if we got the drought conditions we had in 2012 also colder April and early May of 2012 would be a shock if that occurred this year.

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BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED  
TORNADO WARNING  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
450 PM CST MON MAR 6 2017  
  
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN THE TWIN CITIES HAS ISSUED A  
  
* TORNADO WARNING FOR...  
  SOUTHWESTERN WRIGHT COUNTY IN CENTRAL MINNESOTA...  
  
* UNTIL 515 PM CST  
      
* AT 449 PM CST, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO  
  WAS LOCATED NEAR COKATO, OR 11 MILES NORTHEAST OF HUTCHINSON,  
  MOVING NORTHEAST AT 50 MPH.  
  
  HAZARD...TORNADO AND HALF DOLLAR SIZE HAIL.   
  
  SOURCE...RADAR INDICATED ROTATION.   
  
  IMPACT...FLYING DEBRIS WILL BE DANGEROUS TO THOSE CAUGHT WITHOUT   
           SHELTER. MOBILE HOMES WILL BE DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.   
           DAMAGE TO ROOFS, WINDOWS, AND VEHICLES WILL OCCUR.  TREE   
           DAMAGE IS LIKELY.   
  
* THIS DANGEROUS STORM WILL BE NEAR...  
  HOWARD LAKE AROUND 500 PM CST.   
  MAPLE LAKE AROUND 510 PM CST.   
  BUFFALO AROUND 515 PM CST.   
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28 minutes ago, Wmsptwx said:

Things seem to be going linear quickly, a few small cells out front in Iowa, but look to be swallowed up.

Indeed. Looks like main tor risk will be something embedded within the QLCS or if by chance a discrete storm goes up further south in the KS/OK/MO/AR border area.

 

Happy I wasn't able to chase after all, as the window for discrete activity in IA/MN was very short, even more so than thought.

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another one crossing the WF

 

ULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED  
TORNADO WARNING  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
526 PM CST MON MAR 6 2017  
  
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN THE TWIN CITIES HAS ISSUED A  
  
* TORNADO WARNING FOR...  
  NORTHEASTERN WRIGHT COUNTY IN CENTRAL MINNESOTA...  
  SOUTHEASTERN SHERBURNE COUNTY IN CENTRAL MINNESOTA...  
  
* UNTIL 600 PM CST  
      
* AT 525 PM CST, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO  
  WAS LOCATED OVER MONTICELLO, MOVING NORTHEAST AT 35 MPH.  
  
  HAZARD...TORNADO AND PING PONG BALL SIZE HAIL.   
  
  SOURCE...RADAR INDICATED ROTATION.   
  
  IMPACT...FLYING DEBRIS WILL BE DANGEROUS TO THOSE CAUGHT WITHOUT   
           SHELTER. MOBILE HOMES WILL BE DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.   
           DAMAGE TO ROOFS, WINDOWS, AND VEHICLES WILL OCCUR.  TREE   
           DAMAGE IS LIKELY.   
  

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