Stebo Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hoosier said: They pretty much only have them at NWS locations, right? The only exception I can think of in this region is the one in Evansville. NWS or military bases, like Dyess Air Force Base in Texas for example. I do believe though if needed they can add another, like in the case of Evansville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Here is a map of the coverage areas, some big gaps in that area along with the southern part of the state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 3 minutes ago, Stebo said: Here is a map of the coverage areas, some big gaps in that area along with the southern part of the state Cool map. It would be nice to fill those gaps especially in the Plains/Midwest due to the higher severe thunderstorm frequency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 minute ago, Hoosier said: Cool map. It would be nice to fill those gaps especially in the Plains/Midwest due to the higher severe thunderstorm frequency. Yeah, east Texas and northern Nebraska/central South Dakota. Both of those areas need filling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonbo Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: I hate being critical, but that's pretty bad to miss a tornado (no tornado warning) that was on the ground for 15 minutes. Is that in that infamous radar hole? Even with the radar hole it was clear the rotation was tight from DVN (when velocity wasn't down) and STL/LSX radar. I didn't mention this 2 minutes before it touched down for no reason. Cell heading for Keokuk is looking interesting for a bit. Might be the lone cell to get a TW sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 21 minutes ago, Jonbo said: Even with the radar hole it was clear the rotation was tight from DVN (when velocity wasn't down) and STL/LSX radar. I didn't mention this 2 minutes before it touched down for no reason. Yeah I remember that, good call. I think this case kind of shows how important spotters are in areas where radar coverage isn't the greatest. They're important everywhere, but much more so in areas like what's mentioned above. EDIT: 33 reports total yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 12/5/2017 at 6:15 PM, Stebo said: Here is a map of the coverage areas, some big gaps in that area along with the southern part of the state Instead of being where it is, KPOE needs to be further northeast. SW LA is oversaturated, and some notable big dogs in the Lower MS Valley (Tallulah, LA-Yazoo City, MS April 2010 and Clarksdale-Holly Springs, MS December 2015) have been undersampled early in their path on the far northwestern fringe of DGX's range or far southern fringe of NQA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 12/5/2017 at 6:15 PM, Stebo said: Here is a map of the coverage areas, some big gaps in that area along with the southern part of the state That shows how bad the Northwoods needs a radar. Minocqua or over to Phillips would be the best position in that area as there is way too many people in that area during the summer for a lack of a radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just now, Geoboy645 said: That shows how bad the Northwoods needs a radar. Minocqua or over to Phillips would be the best position in that area as there is way too many people in that area during the summer for a lack of a radar. Yeah not to mention that Marathon County gets hit so much and it is on the edge of a couple of radar beams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Marathon County actually has one of the highest tornado report rates in the state. I think it is 2nd behind Dane County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Geoboy645 said: Marathon County actually has one of the highest tornado report rates in the state. I think it is 2nd behind Dane County. I believe you are correct, there might be a county near the river too that is pretty high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 Marathon county is huge though (and decent population), so no surprise that it has a lot of reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 12/5/2017 at 6:58 PM, Hoosier said: I hate being critical, but that's pretty bad to miss a tornado (no tornado warning) that was on the ground for 15 minutes. Is that in that infamous radar hole? Interesting that you mentioned earlier that instability was only around 200 j/kg. Really shows how kinematics can sometimes win out in tor formation particularly in these marginal conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 49 minutes ago, Indystorm said: Interesting that you mentioned earlier that instability was only around 200 j/kg. Really shows how kinematics can sometimes win out in tor formation particularly in these marginal conditions. Yeah, mesoanalysis didn't have more than 200-300 SBCAPE (though MLCAPE and MUCAPE were somewhat higher). Really goes to show what high shear can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 2017 tornado totals by state IL: 51 OH: 39 IN: 30 KY: 26 WI: 24 MI: 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 IA: 55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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