Paragon Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 3 minutes ago, uncle W said: 63-64 was an el nino...64-65 weak la nina...65-66 another el nino... hmmm we didn't do too well in snowfall in 65-66, it was much better south of us. 66-67 was our big season. Different times back then though, we were also in the middle of a record drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 28 minutes ago, bluewave said: Steep low level lapse rates and low dewpoints again with the cold front. We're back in the 60s, even on the south shore! This is my favorite weather, in the summer we'd be in the 90s with low humidity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 12 hours ago, Paragon said: Wasn't that a really long duration snowstorm too? Which of the above was the best? Was it March 1958- the one which dumped 30" of snow at Babylon? Does this have any similarities to that one, Don? It would be funny if we got similar storms to both 1956 and 1958 in the same March lol- because there is another big storm coming up a few days after this one (around the anniversary of the one in 1958 in fact.) The March 1956 one is most similar at 500 mb. So far, things are looking good, but the storm is still around 120 hours away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 27 minutes ago, Paragon said: We're back in the 60s, even on the south shore! This is my favorite weather, in the summer we'd be in the 90s with low humidity! This is a rare month in that most days have been either +10 or warmer or -10 or colder. So departures are distributed to the extreme ends. It should come down to the last 10 days whether we finish with a + or - departure on the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, bluewave said: This is a rare month in that most days have been either +10 or warmer or -10 or colder. So departures are distributed to the extreme ends. It should come down to the last 10 days whether we finish with a + or - departure on the month. It's one of those "whoever gets the ball last wins" scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, pazzo83 said: It's one of those "whoever gets the ball last wins" scenarios. Agree. Several more -10 or lower departures coming this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Paragon said: Nate, wasn't 1955-56 a La Nina too? If it was, would that be an appropriate analog for this year, especially considering that we might end up with a similar snowfall total this winter and have a similar kind of March as we did that season? That -66 at Mould Bay was the lowest temperature ever recorded in Canada in the month of March! Yes, it was a strong La Nina. March 1956 was a really good month, especially for the interior. December was also solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, donsutherland1 said: The March 1956 one is most similar at 500 mb. So far, things are looking good, but the storm is still around 120 hours away. 1958 actually had twin snowfalls around the equinox. So while the 500mb may be most similar to 1956, the back-to-back events may be like 1958, esp if we get the Tuesday storm and the 3/17 threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, nzucker said: 1958 actually had twin snowfalls around the equinox. So while the 500mb may be most similar to 1956, the back-to-back events may be like 1958, esp if we get the Tuesday storm and the 3/17 threat. March 1956 had two 6" or more snowfalls: March 16-17: 6.7" and March 18-19: 11.6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 63 with a dew of 11 here in Sheepshead Bay. Hard to believe 3-5 inches of snow coming tomorrow. Will have a tough time accumulating on roads/sidewalks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, nzucker said: 1958 actually had twin snowfalls around the equinox. So while the 500mb may be most similar to 1956, the back-to-back events may be like 1958, esp if we get the Tuesday storm and the 3/17 threat. 92 had back to back March storms, both of which of course underperformed in my area but were still significant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Was there a big storm around here in March of 1994? Edit: this must be the one - http://www.raymondcmartinjr.com/weather/1994/03-Mar-94.html I remember we got around 2ft in western VA, although it rained/sleeted for a bit (I remember being pissed off until the heavy snow resumed - oh to be young). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, pazzo83 said: Was there a big storm around here in March of 1994? Edit: this must be the one - http://www.raymondcmartinjr.com/weather/1994/03-Mar-94.html I remember we got around 2ft in western VA, although it rained/sleeted for a bit (I remember being pissed off until the heavy snow resumed - oh to be young). early Mar 94 we got like 8 inches and another 4 on Mar 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Paragon said: early Mar 94 we got like 8 inches and another 4 on Mar 21 In classic March fashion I remember two days after our 2ft it was in the 70s and that sh*t was GONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Just now, pazzo83 said: In classic March fashion I remember two days after our 2ft it was in the 70s and that sh*t was GONE. Ugh yea that was the winter where we had 2 events every week and ran out of salt lol. Big thaw after that early March event but then we got that one last event on the first day of Spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 61f with birds chirping at the office in Hauppauge. Almost surreal to think how wintry the next week should be. Days like this would have been killer for an impending snowfall in the past, this year they don't seem to matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Snowshack said: 61f with birds chirping at the office in Hauppauge. Almost surreal to think how wintry the next week should be. Days like this would have been killer for an impending snowfall in the past, this year they don't seem to matter. Right now it definitely helps to have the coldest air in the NH right north of the border Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 39 minutes ago, Snowshack said: 61f with birds chirping at the office in Hauppauge. Almost surreal to think how wintry the next week should be. Days like this would have been killer for an impending snowfall in the past, this year they don't seem to matter. Every snow event so far this year had 50's or 60's either right before of after the event. This must be a new record. The Red-winged Blackbirds just came back this week along the GSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, bluewave said: Every snow event so far this year had 50's or 60's either right before of after the event. This must be a new record. The Red-winged Blackbirds just came back this week along the GSB. After tomorrow's snowfall, winter 2016-17 will have the most occurrences of measurable snowfall following 60° days with 3 such events. The existing record is 2, from winters 1918-19 and 1999-00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: After tomorrow's snowfall, winter 2016-17 will have the most occurrences of measurable snowfall following 60° days with 3 such events. The existing record is 2, from winters 1918-19 and 1999-00. Very impressive. We saw the reverse of this in December with the 60 degree day coming after the heaviest snowfall of the month. The last two years really upped the ante on extremes of snowfall and warmth coexisting together. We had precursors to this with the mild first half of 12-13 and January 06 before the record snowfalls. Before that 90-91 and 82-83. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 2 hours ago, pazzo83 said: Was there a big storm around here in March of 1994? Edit: this must be the one - http://www.raymondcmartinjr.com/weather/1994/03-Mar-94.html I remember we got around 2ft in western VA, although it rained/sleeted for a bit (I remember being pissed off until the heavy snow resumed - oh to be young). It hit the Appalachian spine very hard. State College had over 2 feet with thundersnow. In this area it was a few inch sloppy mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 14 minutes ago, jm1220 said: It hit the Appalachian spine very hard. State College had over 2 feet with thundersnow. In this area it was a few inch sloppy mix. Yeah we don't see storm tracks like that anymore. I remember it was supposed to hit the coast hard but shifted west in the final couple days. Even then the forecast for state college was 12-18 but ended up with closer to 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Stormlover74 said: Yeah we don't see storm tracks like that anymore. I remember it was supposed to hit the coast hard but shifted west in the final couple days. Even then the forecast for state college was 12-18 but ended up with closer to 30 We had plenty of snow that year....people were exhausted by March. It was the most snow anyone had seen for a winter in decades.....the last March storm here in 94 was a 5 inch wet sleetfest that was impossible to shovel. Sounded like the house was being sandblasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Do people realize that the 18z GFS has every single day of next 16 days BN, with 4 days of teens in the next week? Just amazing after the record warm February! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Just now, Morris said: Do people realize that the 18z GFS has every single day of next 16 days BN, with 4 days of teens in the next week? Just amazing after the record warm February! it is going to be very hard to adjust to. But as they say, in March anything can happen..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, Morris said: Do people realize that the 18z GFS has every single day of next 16 days BN, with 4 days of teens in the next week? Just amazing after the record warm February! This stretch we're entering is remiscent of one from 13-14 or 14-15. Tracking multiple threats into March with cold temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, Morris said: Do people realize that the 18z GFS has every single day of next 16 days BN, with 4 days of teens in the next week? Just amazing after the record warm February! I guess, I can point out that the CFS has the last week of March BN.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 March 67 is the benchmark for snow and cold from 3/15 to 3/22...there were three snowfalls from 3/15/67 to 3/22/67...The temp got into the single digits on the 18th...below zero in Islip...this was after a 72 degree day the second week of the month...April 1st and 2nd 67 saw record heat...After that the rest of the spring was as cold with some snow...May 67 is one of the coldest on record... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 This is the first time in a while that we can say that a +3.5 for the first 10 days of March in NYC will be erased over the next 10 days. We will actually have a monthly cold departure when we get out to March 20th. It may just be enough to carry all the way to the end of the month for out first negative departure in over 20 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Light snow falling here, temp 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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