Rtd208 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 http://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/watch/ww0040.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Animal said: February super cells turning up in east central PA. Must suspect wind damage. My station has been sustained winds at 14 mph the last few hours. 2 Tornado warnings Lackawanna PA- 251 PM EST SAT FEB 25 2017 ...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 330 PM EST FOR EASTERN LACKAWANNA COUNTY.. 243 PM EST SAT FEB 25 2017 The National Weather Service in State College PA has issued a * Tornado Warning for... Northwestern Lancaster County in south central Pennsylvania... Southeastern Lebanon County in south central Pennsylvania... * Until 330 PM EST * At 243 PM EST, a severe thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado was located over Mount Joy, moving northeast at 40 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Current temp 68/DP 58/RH 69% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Someone In our are should meet severe criteria. Like others said west of the Hudson. This has the exact look and feel of a typical April severe event around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Just a reminder and maybe those that don't know... Severe Thunderstorm criteria- 1" or greater Hail size, and Gust(s) of 58mph or greater.. sustained wind/lightning strikes is NOT considered when determining severity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, UlsterCountySnowZ said: "Widespread" damage almost never happens with severe thunderstorms anyway..... we're not about a tornado here bro, but it absolutely will meet severe thunderstorm criteria It's more likely to happen in the fall if it does. Remember September a few years back? That was pretty scary. If you want to go a few years further back there's the Labor Day outbreak in 1999 (I hope I got the year right lol.) Before that, October 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Paragon said: It's more likely to happen in the fall if it does. Remember September a few years back? That was pretty scary. If you want to go a few years further back there's the Labor Day outbreak in 1999 (I hope I got the year right lol.) Before that, October 1989. September 2014 I had a microburst here that did a lot of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, IrishRob17 said: September 2014 I had a microburst here that did a lot of damage. That was the one! Big event in our area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I think I messed up the years on the other ones, one was Labor Day 1998 and the other one was October 1987. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 17 minutes ago, UlsterCountySnowZ said: Just a reminder and maybe those that don't know... Severe Thunderstorm criteria- 1" or greater Hail size, and Gust(s) of 58mph or greater.. sustained wind/lightning strikes is NOT considered when determining severity I disagree. Cloud to ground strikes is a severe t-storm in our area. Very dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The radar is lit up over E.PA, wow. We could barely buy snow in February but we can pull off severe. This may be the start of a long and active stretch of severe weather for us this spring and summer, we are overdue IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Rtd208 said: The radar is lit up over E.PA, wow. We could barely buy snow in February but we can pull off severe. This may be the start of a long and active stretch of severe weather for us this spring and summer, we are overdue IMO. I remember people talked about the winter severe season last winter too. I remember almost the exact same words- it was more exciting for severe than it was for snow (outside of the big blizzard of course.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Just now, Paragon said: I remember people talked about the winter severe season last winter too. I remember almost the exact same words- it was more exciting for severe than it was for snow (outside of the big blizzard of course.) Even the severe season was dull last year. Overall we have had a long stretch of quiet weather ever since the January 2016 blizzard, eventually the tide is going to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Not quick hitters as cells are training NE while line not exactly ripping east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 11 minutes ago, Paragon said: I think I messed up the years on the other ones, one was Labor Day 1998 and the other one was October 1987. November 89 is probably what you're thinking. The pre Thanksgiving outbreak followed by cold and several inches of snow on Thanksgiving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 just spot checked local radars out west. This line looks better than anything last summer lol. West of the GS parkway could get crushed in certain areas, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 E.PA looks to be getting hit pretty good right now according to the radar, been checking the Philly thread for storm reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, Animal said: I disagree. Cloud to ground strikes is a severe t-storm in our area. Very dangerous. Lol... my post is a direct fact so it's not really up for a debate or subject to opinion (no offense)... it's the NWS criteria for a "severe storm"... you can define it as a severe storm for your own personal use but sustained winds and lightning strikes are not part of the NWS criteria for classifying severe thunderstorms http://www.spc.noaa.gov/faq/#4.2 section 4.2 they also have a classification for "significant severe storms" 75mph gusts, or 2" hail...and/or a tornado of EF2 or greater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Super stoked here. I see some Tor warns are out to our West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, UlsterCountySnowZ said: Lol... my post is a direct fact so it's not really up for a debate or subject to opinion (no offense)... it's the NWS criteria for a "severe storm"... you can define it as a severe storm for your own personal use but sustained winds and lightning strikes are not part of the NWS criteria for classifying severe thunderstorms I know that. It's a joke. They should update to local climate areas. I have witnessed cloud to ground strikes..scary **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: Super stoked here. I see some Tor warns are out to our West. See that cell just SE of Washington..? Best one I've seen yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Animal said: I know that. It's a joke. They should update to local climate areas. I have witnessed cloud to ground strikes..scary **** I do think lightning is far more dangerous than small hail yet one is severe criteria and one isn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFeen2000 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 This cell has to be a tornado if it's not it's forming into one Edit: these storms are weakening already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UlsterCountySnowZ Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: I do think lightning is far more dangerous than small hail yet one is severe criteria and one isn't Agreed, the problem is how do u measure it? And translate that into warnings/watches... number of strikes per min? also if lightning were the main criteria wouldn't every thunderstorm involving lighting be then classified as severe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treckasec Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, WeatherFeen2000 said: This cell has to be a tornado if it's not it's forming into one I think that's just stratiform rain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, WeatherFeen2000 said: This cell has to be a tornado if it's not it's forming into one Nah, if anything that appendage or notch to the East at the front of the line looks suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Treckasec said: I think that's just stratiform rain? I think he means the hook but that isn't necessarily rotation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I've been in cells where the Lightning was so frequent it seemed like a strobe light. The 2010 derecho is an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The most intense cells look to be east of Baltimore/DC and Richmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Stormlover74 said: I think he means the hook but that isn't necessarily rotation That hook at the top could just be a small mesoscale low embedded in the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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