buckeye Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 25 minutes ago, IWXwx said: The rubber band has snapped for ORD. After getting pounded like a cheap steak and Alek with snows up to his a$$, the boomerang has produced a case of whiplash. EDIT: And Baum bought a snowblower that he'd sell cheap. That always happens it seems. That should also mean there's one hell of a winter(s) coming up for IND - CMH. Hopefully still in my lifetime. Should also mean Detroit's loan is about to be called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Probably can make this a catch-all thread, as I have a bunch of temp stats I'll be posting later.Some snow stats too, unless Hoosier covered them already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 On 2/28/2017 at 1:23 PM, Jonger said: There is no sugar coating it... This winter was almost wall to wall crap. December was decent, but the moment the 18th rolled around, it was done. DJF featured 2 good weeks and then winter essentially ended for everyone south of 44N. Earliest end to Winter, ever? I find it difficult to call this year a Winter. Like powerball said, its been a long March more than anything. And we could be on the heels of another Nino. Would be brutal if that occurred. The atmosphere is still locked in a +ENSO state and this would only further enhance it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 18z NAM and GFS backed off a bit on tomorrow's snow, so there's a chance the 1" streak keeps going. Could be a convective type snow though which leads to greater uncertainty in exact amounts/placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 4 hours ago, Snowstorms said: Earliest end to Winter, ever? I find it difficult to call this year a Winter. Like powerball said, its been a long March more than anything. And we could be on the heels of another Nino. Would be brutal if that occurred. The atmosphere is still locked in a +ENSO state and this would only further enhance it. When you've studied as many winters as I have, the things that have happened over the years have been mind boggling (both good and bad). So any kind of generalized statement not linked to a specific stat (ie "earliest end ever") would be a matter of opinion. Being so spoiled in recent winters hasn't helped in showing how many truly crap winters there have been in the past. I will say though that this crazy snow drought at ORD is mind boggling to me, I'd be going nuts. No point in worrying about next winter. Like I said, ENSO is only one factor and a that factor would be in our favor if it's weak. Rubber bands do snap and they don't last forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 9 hours ago, buckeye said: That always happens it seems. That should also mean there's one hell of a winter(s) coming up for IND - CMH. Hopefully still in my lifetime. Should also mean Detroit's loan is about to be called. You definitely should have a good winter coming up. The band's always snap, of course the end results vary. I'm sure Detroit's glory days the past decade are up, but I honestly cant ever see us going thru what chicago is, with the lake right there. Even this year as unenjoyable as winger has been, total snow is not at all that bad. Fwiw I can't see chicago going thru that again either lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: You definitely should have a good winter coming up. The band's always snap, of course the end results vary. I'm sure Detroit's glory days the past decade are up, but I honestly cant ever see us going thru what chicago is, with the lake right there. Even this year as unenjoyable as winger has been, total snow is not at all that bad. Fwiw I can't see chicago going thru that again either lol. Barring some huge shift in climate where Chicago starts acting like Paducah or something, I'd say it's exceedingly unlikely to pull off this long of a streak again. You just need so many bad breaks even in an overall bad pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Hoosier said: Barring some huge shift in climate where Chicago starts acting like Paducah or something, I'd say it's exceedingly unlikely to pull off this long of a streak again. You just need so many bad breaks even in an overall bad pattern. Exactly. You bring up a good point...while this was a bad pattern anyway, Chicago still got some bad breaks as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 Not a record, but yesterday was the 30th consecutive day without measurable snow at ORD... not even 0.1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 Another minor system in the area tomorrow night/Saturday morning. GFS/GGEM/RGEM have the better snow (relatively speaking since it's light) south of Chicago, while the NAM and UKMET are farther north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Drama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Lol if that piddly event breaks the streak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Stebo said: Lol if that piddly event breaks the streak Setup looks decent enough that whoever gets in that band should get 1"+ ...and it's mostly a nighttime event in northern IL with favorable temps. Question is whether that band ends up over ORD. What would be funny is if it comes in slightly early and ORD gets like 0.2" tomorrow and 0.8" on Saturday. The streak would technically live on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Chicago seems to be more prone to big dogs, but the rest of the time they seem susceptible to awful droughts they we don't see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 19 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Setup looks decent enough that whoever gets in that band should get 1"+ ...and it's mostly a nighttime event in northern IL with favorable temps. Question is whether that band ends up over ORD. What would be funny is if it comes in slightly early and ORD gets like 0.2" tomorrow and 0.8" on Saturday. The streak would technically live on. That would definitely be funny if that happened, but it looks fairly possible as of now. The other question is will guidance hold. The clipper from today was once was modeled further north and stronger, but faded quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Records and top 10's from Met Winter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 43 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said: Records and top 10's from Met Winter... Great list of stats. Something that caught my eye (because I've been researching to death) is your list of least days in Jan/Feb with 1". After searching for a while, I found this site that has the daily snowfall for the years that are missing in the ThreadEx data (like 1897-1900, 1998). Really helped to fill in the gaps. https://www.climatestations.com/chicago/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Some indications on short range models that the main band may pass south/west of the city, and the 12z GFS is also coming in farther south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XfireLOW Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 On 3/1/2017 at 0:26 PM, Snowstorms said: And we could be on the heels of another Nino. Would be brutal if that occurred. The atmosphere is still locked in a +ENSO state and this would only further enhance it. I know this year is not behaving like a La Nina for the central and eastern CONUS, but look at the snowpack of the rockies and pacific nw and it has been very la nina like for them. Storm after storm just barreling into the west coast dumping mountain snow and valley rains. Unfortunately these storms have either weaken as they cross the rockies or cut north into the prairie provinces of Canada flooding everyone in the eastern half of the CONUS with warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 Close but no cigar on the HRRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Latest HRRR... The power of futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said: Latest HRRR... The power of futility. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 RAP decreasing amounts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Hoosier said: RAP decreasing amounts too. Man. Almost unbelievable. Into march and the only "overperformer" was our first storm of the season. Downhill since into new lows. Have a dusting currently in mby, and upstream radar looks good (all things considered). Looks like I may jackpot and ORD/MDW continue the streak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 A huge total of 0.1" at ORD last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Chicago Storm said: A huge total of 0.1" at ORD last night. Too bad it ended the lack of measurable snow streak. At least we still have the 1" streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 Today is day 77 without a 1" snow, which is 2nd place for DJFM. Would have to go through March 24 to break that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Ended up with .9" here. Mostly gone except for shaded areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Hoosier said: Today is day 77 without a 1" snow, which is 2nd place for DJFM. Would have to go through March 24 to break that one. This winter is delivering all kinds of stats that we probably won't see again for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 2 hours ago, cyclone77 said: This winter is delivering all kinds of stats that we probably won't see again for a very long time. It's really just mind boggling, how a city that far north has managed to avoid a measly 1" snowfall for 2.5 months. Records are made to be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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