Interstate Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Please delete the fighting and take it to the banter thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, PivotPoint said: It's better for snow falling (generally). Plain and simple Whatever you say chief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Where are you guys seeing the Canadian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 HA HA HA--- You cannot make this crap up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feloniousq Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Got family traveling to see me 30 hours from now and I could get anything from cold rain to 7". Sure would be nice to get something resembling consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I thought the CMC would pull people back from the ledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cae Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 According to the Kuchera map the 00z GFS was a little worse than 18z around here but better out west. The 00z runs have moved the low out of here more quickly than the 18z suite, which I think has reduced totals in NE MD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PivotPoint Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Not trying to be short with you, honestly, there is just a lot of misinformation flying around right now because of people trolling model runs. And fact is (albeit maybe noise) the 0z is a slight improvement in the general sense of the word. Oh, and go rgem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Wow. Just saw Canadian. Lol. Probably stay up for euro now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaltimoreWxGuy Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 HRRR has DC at 65 at 3PM tomorrow....hard to believe it might snow 12 hours later...serious question, what is a legit example of this situation? I feel like some of us have never seen this possible outcome. 65 to 34 in 12 hrs and heavy snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, BaltimoreWxGuy said: HRRR has DC at 65 at 3PM tomorrow....hard to believe it might snow 12 hours later...serious question, what is a legit example of this situation? I feel like some of has have never seen this possible outcome. 65 to 34 in 12 hrs and heavy snow? I know a couple of years ago it was warm and then we got a paste job. Shut down 83 and people walked home. I do not know how warm it was though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, WxWatcher007 said: Also, I couldn't care less about road impact. I'm trying to get enough of a thump to accumulate somewhere to add to my already pathetic totals. Gotta start somewhere. I want to take my kids sled riding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feloniousq Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, BaltimoreWxGuy said: HRRR has DC at 65 at 3PM tomorrow....hard to believe it might snow 12 hours later...serious question, what is a legit example of this situation? I feel like some of us have never seen this possible outcome. 65 to 34 in 12 hrs and heavy snow? I remember it was mid-60s in the NC mountains on the Saturday afternoon before Sandy and 32 and snowing by midnight Sunday night, but that's the closest I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 GGEM is way slower than the GFS at 36hrs. GFS is 100 miles east of Cape May, while the GEM is 10 miles NE of VA beach. This would explain the extra snow. EDIT: Just noticed GGEM has a feedback low offshore. This may Fujiwara the main low south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, Deck Pic said: Wow. Just saw Canadian. Lol. Probably stay up for euro now. I thought you hated the Canadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 When does the UKIE come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 11 minutes ago, BaltimoreWxGuy said: HRRR has DC at 65 at 3PM tomorrow....hard to believe it might snow 12 hours later...serious question, what is a legit example of this situation? I feel like some of us have never seen this possible outcome. 65 to 34 in 12 hrs and heavy snow? That scenario isn't far-fetched with our history of strong cold fronts. Check out 11/11/95 (64F high/32F low in Potomac, MD) and 3/8/05 (60F high/24F low in Potomac, MD). A heavy snow burst covered the ground in both those situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, RidingTheModelWithMostSnow said: When does the UKIE come out? 10 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cae Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 6 hours ago, paulythegun said: Both the 12z Euro and 18z Rgem have the mesoscale feature that rolled through NOLA today developing into a weak low off of NC. In both cases, that low gums things up and impedes the progress of our main low, allowing the cold air to rush in and for the system to amp up a bit more. Keep an eye on that feature 9 minutes ago, Amped said: GGEM is way slower than the GFS at 36hrs. GFS is 100 miles east of Cape May, while the GEM is 10 miles NE of VA beach. This would explain the extra snow. EDIT: Just noticed GGEM has a feedback low offshore. This may Fujiwara the main low south. Good calls. No other model has the offshore low deeper than the onshore low at hour 30. The GGEM has a deeper offshore low already at 24 hours. With no other model, not even the RGEM, in its corner, it's hard to give much weight to the GGEM. But it does show how this could potentially shift in our favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 UKMET is a 991 over OC..based on that, I'd think it wouldn't work out for the cities but waiting on the precip/temp maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, nj2va said: UKMET is a 991 over OC..based on that, I'd think it wouldn't work out for the cities but waiting on the precip/temp maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cae Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 UKIE looks slower than the NAMs. That's a good sign. Not as slow as the GGEM though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, WxWatcher007 said: Looks similar to 12z to me? You got temps? Not out yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, yoda said: At least it's slower and stronger than the GFS. GFS just pulls the rug out from under us as soon as it changes over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cae Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 UKMET's low placement at 36 hours is similar to RGEM's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 Now we wait 45 mins for the EURO to appear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Hard to interpret the UKMET between intervals, but based on the Meteogram, its not good for DC. 15mm falls through 12z but 850s don't go below 0 until ~11z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 48 minutes ago, yoda said: I thought you hated the Canadian The model in general? It is an inferior model and I wouldn't take its solution in isolation, but it is enough that I will stay up for the euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cae Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Looking at SLP placement at 36 hours, tonight's runs from fastest to slowest are roughly: GFS NAMs / ICON UKMET / RGEM GGEM The slower runs are better for us. The 12z Euro run had the low in a similar location as the UKMET / RGEM's 00z runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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