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February 9th Coastal Storm Discussion


Baroclinic Zone

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This solution really doesn't mean much except maybe increase confidence that the whiff solutions were too far SE. That's about all you can take from this run of the NAM well outside of its wheelhouse. 

Clown maps are pretty to look at though. 

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Mmm. Hate to say but the old lessons about the NAM picking out the thickness gradient particulars and developing things accordingly ... sticks out here. It does really well with these fresh baro clinic zones when they lined up on the marine continental interface like that; plenty of examples of that history. 

I suspect the fact that this cold air mass coming in on the backside Tuesday's thing is so fresh boundaries are well defined/steep. Nam is just going drive convective sequencing earlier on in this things lifecycle.  

I just think there's a tremendous amount of numerical instability in having that fresh bear clinic axes stuck on the western gstream interface with the continent and then running all that wind energy over the top of that I'm actually shocked the euro didn't pick that out better which is very odd 

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10 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

This solution really doesn't mean much except maybe increase confidence that the whiff solutions were too far SE. That's about all you can take from this run of the NAM well outside of its wheelhouse. 

Clown maps are pretty to look at though. 

We haven't gotten to look at many clown maps lately

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Yeah probably..esp up in CNE/NNE. But it's still a huge hit in CNE under that band this run. 

But that type of detail is totally meaningless right now. 


Yup just wanted to clarify. Lots of pretty colours but that encompasses the total precipitation and not just from this one storm. Anyway moot point as it's just one model solution. Needs supporting models to be believable imo.
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Yes Bob, we want the northern stream to catch up with the southern stream energy right over the gulf stream, as Tip said, the wind energy moving over the baroclinic zone right over the western wall of the Gulf Stream and especially warmer eddies within the 40N latitude lines near 68-70W longitude lines, we could see the storm ramp up quickly as the NAM advertises, which is why we should abandon the model.

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