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Coastal Crusher Feb 9th 2017


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7 minutes ago, SnowGoose69 said:

RGEM on black and white maps is way faster than 12Z NAM at 48.  By 48 it already has a 989mb low east of Ocean County and it appears in the next 6-8 hours after the Metro would get pounded.

Hour 48 is a complete crush job for coast:

 

 

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1 minute ago, jm1220 said:

That said the RGEM looks more like the other models vs the NAM with the heaviest focused on the coast. NAM is likely overdone with the band well inland. 

Verbatim, it has 4" of snow through hour 48 with super heavy banding overhead at that hour. Likely a 10" run for the coast.

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2 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

Upton's very conservative. Will issue only for city on east and CT

Northwest of the city there's still a lot of uncertainty, especially well NW towards Sussex, Orange, Putnam etc. The SE models could only give them advisory amounts vs being destroyed on the NAM. I think the whole area should have a watch though. 

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Just now, jm1220 said:

Northwest of the city there's still a lot of uncertainty, especially well NW towards Sussex, Orange, Putnam etc. The SE models could only give them advisory amounts vs being destroyed on the NAM. I think the whole area should have a watch though. 

if the midday models hold suit and potential is high for 6"+ I would agree. Can always change to advisory tomorrow

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Just now, wkd said:

Heard the same thing last year for 2 -3 days before the blizzard.

The NAM aloft looked less impressive than before and the evolution shifted SE a little over the last few runs. It also notoriously overdoes banding features like these. Not saying it's caving completely but maybe it's just moving into consensus with other models which are becoming more impressive. 

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.LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/...
Attention will be on upstream trough, and eventual sfc low that is
forecast to develop to our southwest, and pass off the Mid Atlantic
coast, on Thu tracking toward or just south of the 40N/70W benchmark.

Have continued to discount the fast/flat GFS solution in favor of a
more amplified a la ECMWF/SREF mean blend. NAM appears too
amplified, and appears much too wet.

It still looks like will rain move in ahead of the approaching low
Wed night. then we will see a transition to snow from NW to SE to
snow as colder air moves in north of the developing low.

An overall snowfall of at least 4-6 inches appears likely, with
the highest amounts over central/eastern Long Island and
southern CT. Position of heaviest snow bands remains in
question, and could well shift north of here. The probabilistic
snowfall forecast will reflect this as well as potential for
amounts of 6-8 inches in the higher percentile categories, not
to be taken lightly since snowfall totals have pushed the 90th
percentile with almost every winter weather event this season.

Trough axis moves through Wed night as sfc low deepens as it departs
to the northeast. High pressure builds, then upstream energy
approaches as a warm front approaches late in the week. This weekend
could be unsettled, with possible light snow Friday night as cold
air remains in place. Temps warm as the weekend progresses, so any
precip would transition to rain.

 

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Looking at 14 cases of storms with an AO-/PNA+ and cool ENSO Region 3.4 anomalies (2/1-15/1950-2016), a general 4"-8" snowfall seems to be a reasonable proposition until more details are available on the later guidance. I'm talking about the entire Upton forecasting area. There would be about a 20% probability of a 10" or greater snowfall and 50% probability of around 5" in and around NYC. Interestingly enough, the probabilities for Boston are very similar for such storms, in general.

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