PrinceFrederickWx Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, North Balti Zen said: That wasn't historic. That was my second biggest storm (7") since moving here, other than the HECS last year. To get those kind of totals in mid-March in southern MD is borderline historic in my opinion. Even if you don't consider that storm historic, the month itself has to be. I had four accumulating events in March- I don't think I'll ever see that here again in my lifetime. In fact, if it wasn't for March, the 13/14 winter kinda sucked IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 It was a nice storm. It was rare. But it wasn't anywhere close to historic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 46 minutes ago, EastCoast NPZ said: You are more concerned about crime in rural areas than DC / Balt / insert any other urban area in the world? You have to remember that it is all about rates. There is more crime in cities, but there are more people. Your individual chances of being a victim depend on that ratio. I guess looking at the stats I should be equally as concerned. My in-laws moved to the Amissville area which is one of the most rural parts of the northern half of VA and one of the safest. The rate of violent crime there is 1 in 1800 (probably depends some on data source, but I'm not writing a thesis here). The rate in my "zone" is 1 in 700 which is closer to Stephens City and much better than the crime-ridden hellhole that is Winchester. But my zone also includes some heavily immigrant areas where there is more crime. Taking the neighboring zone (Vienna) where the demographics are similar to my neighborhood and the rate is 1 in 1700, pretty much exactly the safe, rural rate. So, given the same chance of being a victim of violent crime, I am more inclined to feel safe in a neighborhood with a number of people around than isolated out in a rural area. I guess that is my take on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Have a friend coming to town in late July and wants to go to a Nats game. I hate the heat so I was checking my station records. 2011 on that date, highest temp I've recorded. 2014 on that date - 74 for a high. I'm really hoping for a 2004/2009/2014 type of summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 48 minutes ago, MN Transplant said: You have to remember that it is all about rates. There is more crime in cities, but there are more people. Your individual chances of being a victim depend on that ratio. I guess looking at the stats I should be equally as concerned. My in-laws moved to the Amissville area which is one of the most rural parts of the northern half of VA and one of the safest. The rate of violent crime there is 1 in 1800 (probably depends some on data source, but I'm not writing a thesis here). The rate in my "zone" is 1 in 700 which is closer to Stephens City and much better than the crime-ridden hellhole that is Winchester. But my zone also includes some heavily immigrant areas where there is more crime. Taking the neighboring zone (Vienna) where the demographics are similar to my neighborhood and the rate is 1 in 1700, pretty much exactly the safe, rural rate. So, given the same chance of being a victim of violent crime, I am more inclined to feel safe in a neighborhood with a number of people around than isolated out in a rural area. I guess that is my take on the issue. The city does seem to have a lot of crime for whatever reason. I think Winchester must be some type of drug hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 1 hour ago, MN Transplant said: You have to remember that it is all about rates. There is more crime in cities, but there are more people. Your individual chances of being a victim depend on that ratio. I guess looking at the stats I should be equally as concerned. My in-laws moved to the Amissville area which is one of the most rural parts of the northern half of VA and one of the safest. The rate of violent crime there is 1 in 1800 (probably depends some on data source, but I'm not writing a thesis here). The rate in my "zone" is 1 in 700 which is closer to Stephens City and much better than the crime-ridden hellhole that is Winchester. But my zone also includes some heavily immigrant areas where there is more crime. Taking the neighboring zone (Vienna) where the demographics are similar to my neighborhood and the rate is 1 in 1700, pretty much exactly the safe, rural rate. So, given the same chance of being a victim of violent crime, I am more inclined to feel safe in a neighborhood with a number of people around than isolated out in a rural area. I guess that is my take on the issue. All in perception I suppose. I feel safer where there are less people. I was never really aware the Winchester had a high crime rate. However it seems to have a sizable "immigrant" population and a couple notoriously bad sections of town, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised, though I guess I shouldn't make assumptions as to the causes of the crime without data to back it up. I have heard of a growing heroin problem in the Valley. Amissville is a wonderful area. That entire area west on 211 is among the most beautiful in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, EastCoast NPZ said: All in perception I suppose. I feel safer where there are less people. I was never really aware the Winchester had a high crime rate. However it seems to have a sizable "immigrant" population and a couple notoriously bad sections of town, so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised, though I guess I shouldn't make assumptions as to the causes of the crime without data to back it up. I have heard of a growing heroin problem in the Valley. Amissville is a wonderful area. That entire area west on 211 is among the most beautiful in the state. That area has really grown on me. Really, wine country from Sky Meadows down to Madison Co. is nice territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 April is so nice around here. Oh, February. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midatlanticweather Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Well, a little memory cheered my up some, except the switch to sleet! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_blizzard_of_2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 There's really something that needs to be said here. It's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 I think we can all agree that March 14 and 15 were historic in the cities/burbs. Especially considering the trend the last 30 years with losing on the margins. Multiple cold snow events that require shoveling and stick around 24 hours is pretty rare for March. Unfortunately this year....as Tracker has been very cryptically hinting at lately...it's over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 9 hours ago, WinterWxLuvr said: The city does seem to have a lot of crime for whatever reason. I think Winchester must be some type of drug hub. It's a problem everywhere there's a large population. I don't know the answer but it's not exclusive to Winchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Bob Chill said: I think we can all agree that March 14 and 15 were historic in the cities/burbs. Especially considering the trend the last 30 years with losing on the margins. Multiple cold snow events that require shoveling and stick around 24 hours is pretty rare for March. Unfortunately this year....as Tracker has been very cryptically hinting at lately...it's over Rather than unfortunately, I'd say fortunately. Let's bury our dead and move on. Get to it, Reaper. Aka, wxwatcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Go outside today people. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 hour ago, losetoa6 said: No way this kid is going to cancel winter on Feb 18th. I'll enjoy the warm weather for now but no doubt long range will change. Still a solid 4 weeks left to root for snow in the cities and 6 weeks up this way. It's never too late to root for a snowstorm imo. I could care less if it melts 2 days later. Wet snows are the best anyway..imho. Yep, too soon to say difinitively it's over, at least around here. A quick shot of cold air, a little wet storm running along the southern periphery and we have a nice 6 incher or more out of the blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 1 hour ago, losetoa6 said: People out in swimsuits and getting in the ocean at Virginia beach...lol Shrinkage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Prune day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted February 18, 2017 Share Posted February 18, 2017 Yeah I haven't given up on winter yet. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Listen,....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDM Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Pretty amazing - just past midnight in the middle of Feb and it's 58F outside. If the temps hold true for a prolonged warm spell this week (IE: much above normal), this could sprout some tree buds wayyyyy to early. We certainly overshot the forecast high today by several degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 February is the new allergy season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The fruit tree farmers have to be worrying about such an early heat spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 2 hours ago, smokeybandit said: The fruit tree farmers have to be worrying about such an early heat spike. I've already accepted that my plum and pear will blossom early, then get hit by frost/freeze. That'd make it three years in a row of zapped blossoms. I can only imagine how nervous I'd be if it were my livelihood! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Who needs winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I hope Andy got out and enjoyed the weather and didnt sit in front of the tv to watch the Capitals. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtracker Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I haven't looked at a model in 3 days. I'm in summer form already. It's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPE Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 6 hours ago, stormtracker said: I haven't looked at a model in 3 days. I'm in summer form already. It's over. So are the models, or at least deep Spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I returned from a Caribbean cruise to this weather. What a killjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arlwx Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 More signs of non-winter in the DC area yesterday. Rowing crews (and coxs) in the Potomac, along with four canoes, two motorboats (and the Pentagon putt-putt). Eight fishermen spotted around Haines Point and further up the Potomac. Not only runners, but a pack of them along with people with dogs, strollers, etc. And bicyclists by the ton. No wonder I saw only one flock of "Mall geese", getting chased off the Potomac by the canoes. And the parking lot at the zoo closed by 915 am... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 My office is boiling hot. They know full well that us contractors will be in, yet they insist on turning off the climate control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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