Hoosier Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 Josh -- I don't know if it's possible but can you approximate how much of your season's snow has come from the lake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, Hoosier said: Josh -- I don't know if it's possible but can you approximate how much of your season's snow has come from the lake? Its been a lot, quite unusual. Decided to look for myself. Whats impressive is that I can count 4-5 times from the lake we had near whiteout conditions. L = Lake effect, S = Synoptic Nov 20 - 0.1" - L Dec 8/9 - 1.1" - L Dec 11/12 - 10.9" - S Dec 15 - 2.5" - L (*arctic front enhanced) Dec 16/17 - 3.7" - S Dec 29 - 0.3"- S Jan 5/6 - 1.9" - L Jan 8 - 0.6" - L (*arctic front enhanced) Jan 10 - 3.3" - S Jan 27 - 0.3" - L Jan 28-30 - 2.5" - L (*shortwave enhanced) Jan 30/31 - 4.7" - S Feb 1 - 1.2" - L ........ LAKE - 10.2" SYNOPTIC - 22.9" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, michsnowfreak said: Very interesting weather day. A very heavy snow squall hit this morning around 6:30am, basically dropping an inch (0.9") of pretty dense snow (it was 31F) in 15-20 mins. DTW reported heavy snow with 0.1 mi visib. Left for work and roads were a disaster. My 45-minute commute took 1.5 hours. Despite all the plowing/salting yesterdays, the quick squall caught road crews unprepared and roads had ice where there was not snow. Then, the sun and blue sky came out for just the 3rd time in 23 days, and the temp rose to 38F, melting/compacting the snow about 1.5-2" in depth. Then, as the evening commute hit it clouded up and more squalls hit, dropping a fresh 0.3" imby and 0.4" at DTW, though visibility was the bigger issue than snow/ice-covered roads. im now at 33.1" on the season with 30.0" at DTW, keeps finding ways to snow in an unfavorable pattern. Snowpack is now a dense 4" and will start to freeze up tonight. Should be a great weekend for sledding as the snow will be solid and frozen. The first pic is beautiful. Can't believe it was 38 there today. Temp fell through the lower teens and single digits here today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 2, 2017 Author Share Posted February 2, 2017 41 minutes ago, michsnowfreak said: Its been a lot, quite unusual. Decided to look for myself. Whats impressive is that I can count 4-5 times from the lake we had near whiteout conditions. L = Lake effect, S = Synoptic Nov 20 - 0.1" - L Dec 8/9 - 1.1" - L Dec 11/12 - 10.9" - S Dec 15 - 2.5" - L (*arctic front enhanced) Dec 16/17 - 3.7" - S Dec 29 - 0.3"- S Jan 5/6 - 1.9" - L Jan 8 - 0.6" - L (*arctic front enhanced) Jan 10 - 3.3" - S Jan 27 - 0.3" - L Jan 28-30 - 2.5" - L (*shortwave enhanced) Jan 30/31 - 4.7" - S Feb 1 - 1.2" - L ........ LAKE - 10.2" SYNOPTIC - 22.9" Haven't been measuring every snow here but I'd guess my season total is somewhere around 12-15", with almost all of it being synoptic. Not that I expect frequent LES here anyway. You get more days with LES in an average year but the ceiling for a single event is a lot higher around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 Last time I checked my total was almost an eve split Whereas 70/30 is prolly more typical. DTW's had more synoptic snow in nearly every event so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 1 hour ago, weatherbo said: The first pic is beautiful. Can't believe it was 38 there today. Temp fell through the lower teens and single digits here today. Thanks. It was calm and with low dews so wasn't too bad but felt balmy. Will be very cold the next few days. Snow still has a very fresh look even though it compacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 What a change of pace to see full sun today. That combined with the dry cold, smelled like mid-winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueWaves Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Sun and snow, oh my! Great shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim101 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 This is were we stand so far this winter season for snow fall here in lower Michigan. Grand Rapids 53.8” Lansing 27.0” Muskegon 38.80” Detroit 30.2” Flint 31.8” Here is where they stand in Norther Lower Michigan. http://www.weather.gov/apx/snowgraph_ytd So even in norther lower Michigan the snow fall has been spotty. and in the UP Marquette is now at 88.7" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 This is were we stand so far this winter season for snow fall here in lower Michigan. Grand Rapids 53.8” Lansing 27.0” Muskegon 38.80” Detroit 30.2” Flint 31.8” Here is where they stand in Norther Lower Michigan.http://www.weather.gov/apx/snowgraph_ytd So even in norther lower Michigan the snow fall has been spotty. and in the UP Marquette is now at 88.7"Crazy how much better Detroit is doing than Toledo. We've only received 16" on the season and 11" of that came in one big December storm. Climo is 37" a year so with only 6 weeks left really that 21" is gonna be hard to make up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 3, 2017 Author Share Posted February 3, 2017 Very dry airmass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Finally some brilliant blue skies today with the high nearby. Got up to 21 this afternoon. Should warm up to at or above freezing this weekend with a chance of snow showers tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 7 hours ago, slimjim101 said: This is were we stand so far this winter season for snow fall here in lower Michigan. Grand Rapids 53.8” Lansing 27.0” Muskegon 38.80” Detroit 30.2” Flint 31.8” Here is where they stand in Norther Lower Michigan. http://www.weather.gov/apx/snowgraph_ytd So even in norther lower Michigan the snow fall has been spotty. and in the UP Marquette is now at 88.7" MQT is nearly 3' below to date, and I need another 120" to hit my average. Something that has occurred with an unusual lack offrequency this winter and last winter is n to ne wind lake enhancedsnow. This system should bring a period of healthy n wind lakeenhancement as 850mb temps fall Tue night, reaching -15 to -20C byWed morning. So, far western Upper MI (Gogebic/Ontonagon counties)and n central Upper MI will likely see the greatest snow totals fromthis system. As the deepening low reaches se Canada on Wed, arcticair will send 850mb temps down into the low -20s. As deep layerforcing shifts e, synoptic snow will exit Wed and n wind lakeenhanced snow, which could be very hvy in the morning Here's some interesting stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Hoosier said: Very dry airmass. 20/4 here right now, hard to believe that we could be talking severe weather in just 4 days for the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Hit 30 here but felt much warmer. The sun felt stronger today. Can tell the days are getting longer already, sun didn't set until 5:20PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Yeah this was the sunniest day in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackstraw Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Got some sun today finally ;). The grass has never been completely covered here this year. My Tulip tree's are starting to show buds. Barely over 2-2.5 inches total so far this season in 3 different "events". KIND may have recorded over 6 so far but this screw hole between Marion and Indy has gotten nadda. If we don't get a miracle "reach around" Tues.- Wed., this winter will be remembered as the winter of Private Pyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 It's still a snoozefest, but at least we are getting regular sunshine with the current pattern. It's certainly becoming brighter as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 A coworker and I went on a walk during lunch. Arctic air when the sun is shining is very invigorating. The roller coaster continues unabated and it looks like we lose the snow Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 7 hours ago, nwohweather said: Crazy how much better Detroit is doing than Toledo. We've only received 16" on the season and 11" of that came in one big December storm. Climo is 37" a year so with only 6 weeks left really that 21" is gonna be hard to make up Often times we will see that MI/OH cutoff, but it's more rare to see it happen on a continual basis during an entire winter, but it does happen (after all DTW only averages like 6" more than TOL). Ever since the snowmelt Dec 26, almost every bout of snow has had a similar looking snow depth maps. Feb 3rd snow depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 9 hours ago, nwohweather said: Crazy how much better Detroit is doing than Toledo. We've only received 16" on the season and 11" of that came in one big December storm. Climo is 37" a year so with only 6 weeks left really that 21" is gonna be hard to make up The numbers across MI give quite a deceptive view of how good this winter has been. In reality, a significant chunk of that snowfall came from LES that these reporting sites have happened to luck upon. For example, DTW was inundated with Lake Michgian streamers throughout January that didn't really affect the rest of Metro Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Powerball said: The numbers across MI give quite a deceptive view of how good this winter has been. In reality, a significant chunk of that snowfall came from LES that these reporting sites have happened to luck upon. For example, DTW was inundated with Lake Michgian streamers throughout January that didn't really affect the rest of Metro Detroit. Several posts up, I commented to Hoosier that I estimate 10.3" of my 33.2" came from LES. I looked up the same dates for DTW (based on what was LES & synoptic) and 8" of their 30.2" cam from the Lake. So thats basically 22-23" synoptic snow for the heart of metro-Detroit so far this winter. Looked up the Newport spotter in Monroe county, and they are at 22.1" on the season, so that supports that theory of how much synoptic the heart of metro Detroit south to the state line has had. Theres no question the ARB-DTW corridor has been cashing in on LES more than the rest of the area. I know just from driving around that some areas near me had more LES than me (and I had more than DTW). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjim101 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 With clear skies and calm winds the temperature fell to +2° here at my house (looks like +5° at the airport) In the last two winters the coldest it has gotten officially is +1° on February 14th of 2016. The coldest it has been this winter is +2° on January 6th and the last time Grand Rapids reached 0° was on March 5th 2015 and the last time it has gotten below zero was on February 28th 2015 and the last time it has gotten -10° or colder was on February 27th 2015. In other words we have gone almost two years without reaching a subzero day here in west Michigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chambana Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Temperatures really took a nosedive last night, all the way down to 11. Got a picture of the sunrise this morning, about the only exciting thing going on weather wise lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Nice sunrise! I took a walk today at a wildlife preserve near DTW airport that I didn't even know existed! Sunny morning gave way to a cloudy afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UMB WX Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 rough last 2 weeks to even get it to snow 6 hrs northwest of Milwaukee where i'm at in Bayfield CTY. Almost packed it up to come home this weekend but why come home to 40's when we might have a nice run of wx up here the next 2 weeks compared to being back home in the Ohio valley climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 ^Nice pics Josh/Chambana. After tomorrow MLI will reach the 50 day mark with only 0.4" of snow total. Only two days in that 50 day stretch with measurable snow. 0.3" on Jan 25th, and 0.1" on Jan 26th. We've gotten to the point to where the futility has become very impressive, so it's going to be interesting to see how futile it continues to be going forward. Really don't see any ops for anything more than a DAB through at least the Feb 15-20 period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 The 18z and 00z GFS both pitch a shutout for snow for Chicago through the run. I just can't see that happening, for almost 2 months of the middle of winter to end up with under an inch of snow is just incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Tell me about it. I had 1.1" of snow total the entire month of January. Haven't checked, but I think we are pushing the new record low boundary around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted February 5, 2017 Author Share Posted February 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Stebo said: The 18z and 00z GFS both pitch a shutout for snow for Chicago through the run. I just can't see that happening, for almost 2 months of the middle of winter to end up with under an inch of snow is just incredible. That would really be something. This winter for me has been an ultimate reminder of how horrible grass can look at this time of year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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