pazzo83 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Feb 2017 is officially the 13th straight month of temps hitting at least 60F in Central Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Record Report 395 SXUS71 KOKX 081802 RERNYC RECORD EVENT REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 100 PM EST FRI FEB 08 2017 ...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT CENTRAL PARK NY... A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 62 DEGREES WAS SET AT CENTRAL PARK NY AT 12:59 PM TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 61 SET IN 1965. Other records include: Atlantic City: 71° (old record: 69°, 1965) Baltimore: 72° (old record: 70°, 1965) Bridgeport: 63° (old record: 57°, 1965) Islip: 62° (old record: 59°, 2009) New York City-JFK: 64° (old record: 62°, 1965) New York City-LGA: 61° (old record: 60°, 1965) Newark: 64° (old record: 63°, 1965) Philadelphia: 66° (old record: 63°, 1925) Sterling: 71° (old record: 70°, 1965) Washington, DC: 74° (old record: 68°, 1900 and 1915) Westhampton: 62° (old record: 61°, 2009) White Plains: 57° (old record: 56°, 2009) Wilmington: 70° (old record: 66°, 1975) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Whoever had "blowtorch back to back winters with above normal snowfall" in their "WTF is going on" bingo - please collect your prize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 JFK builds on the record a bit...65 at 2pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Temp is currently 63 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, pazzo83 said: Whoever had "blowtorch back to back winters with above normal snowfall" in their "WTF is going on" bingo - please collect your prize. Welcome to Denver in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mriceyman Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 hours ago, pazzo83 said: Whoever had "blowtorch back to back winters with above normal snowfall" in their "WTF is going on" bingo - please collect your prize. Unreal .. just wants to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 2/8/2017 Records: Allentown: 61° (old record: 59°, 1949) Atlantic City: 71° (old record: 69°, 1965) Baltimore: 72° (old record: 70°, 1965) Bridgeport: 63° (old record: 57°, 1965) Islip: 62° (old record: 59°, 2009) New York City-JFK: 65° (old record: 62°, 1965) New York City-LGA: 62° (old record: 60°, 1965) New York City-NYC: 62° (old record: 61°, 1965) Newark: 65° (old record: 63°, 1965) Philadelphia: 66° (old record: 63°, 1925) Sterling: 71° (old record: 70°, 1965) Washington, DC: 74° (old record: 68°, 1900 and 1915) Westhampton: 62° (old record: 61°, 2009) White Plains: 57° (old record: 56°, 2009) Wilmington: 70° (old record: 66°, 1975) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Temps falling off pretty quickly here, down to 56 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 GFS is very blocking in the mid to long range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 20 hours ago, pazzo83 said: Whoever had "blowtorch back to back winters with above normal snowfall" in their "WTF is going on" bingo - please collect your prize. In this new era of climate, I think we're going to have to disconnect cold from snow. You don't need a cold winter to have a lot of snow. You just need one or two days of below normal temps every month to get that. And that's what we're seeing now. As a matter of fact, the warmth may cause us to have more snow as it gives us access to more moisture. So after a long warm spell a day or two of cold is all we need to tap into that. If you look at the snowless winters in the 80s, most of them were much colder than these snowy winters we've been having. So I don't think we should despair even if the entire winter averages 40 degrees or even higher. Most of us want the snow, the cold isn't all that necessary. Plus it keeps heating costs down to have a warmer winter- so a snowy mild winter is the best of both worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 19 hours ago, NortheastPAWx said: JFK builds on the record a bit...65 at 2pm. It hit 67 here a few miles to the east of JFK. I wonder what the record is for the most snow the day after it hit 60+? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Paragon said: In this new era of climate, I think we're going to have to disconnect cold from snow. You don't need a cold winter to have a lot of snow. You just need one or two days of below normal temps every month to get that. And that's what we're seeing now. As a matter of fact, the warmth may cause us to have more snow as it gives us access to more moisture. So after a long warm spell a day or two of cold is all we need to tap into that. If you look at the snowless winters in the 80s, most of them were much colder than these snowy winters we've been having. So I don't think we should despair even if the entire winter averages 40 degrees or even higher. Most of us want the snow, the cold isn't all that necessary. Plus it keeps heating costs down to have a warmer winter- so a snowy mild winter is the best of both worlds Better for banter but I disagree, the limited cold and storms taking a favorable track have fortunately aligned for us the last couple of years, but winters averaging 40+ should not consistently yield average or better snow. Sooner or later our lucky steak will run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 58 minutes ago, Snowshack said: Better for banter but I disagree, the limited cold and storms taking a favorable track have fortunately aligned for us the last couple of years, but winters averaging 40+ should not consistently yield average or better snow. Sooner or later our lucky steak will run out. But it's been this way since 2002 or so, so it's been over a decade of "luck". I do think it'll run out one day but it won't be because of bad luck, but because of climate change ultimately making our climate too warm for snow. Either way it won't matter, a lot of the shore will probably be underwater by 2060 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Is it true that Monday brings more snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just now, TriPol said: Is it true that Monday brings more snow? City and area get rain. Need to be far more north for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I believe there may be something possibly in the pipeline for around this time next week?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 12z GEFS have 2-3 members with a MECS. NAO tanks next week and PNA pikes; I have a high suspicion that we will be tracking something within the next 3-4 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, bluewave said: 3 storms this strong in 1 week time is more like something you see along the US West Coast or Western Europe. The blizzard departs today followed by the weekend system that brings rain near the coast and very windy conditions behind it. Storm number 3 in about a week would be our next snow threat. Just need to give the late week storm some space so it can tuck in closer to the coast. Plenty of time to watch how the wavelength spacing works out. What do you think, BW, for the threat a week out? Seems like the tendency this winter is for storms to tuck in closer to the coast than earlier modeling would suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 33 minutes ago, Enigma said: 12z GEFS have 2-3 members with a MECS. NAO tanks next week and PNA pikes; I have a high suspicion that we will be tracking something within the next 3-4 days. Don't know if anyone else caught this, but 12z RGEM actually gives a 1 to 2 inch snowfall for the city and north Saturday morning. Just a minor system, but we could see a little snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 AO really tanks next week as well which combined with the NAO drop and PNA spike will likely favor at least a moderate event within the next 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 the ao is forecast to be its winter low around the 14th...the nao looks slightly negative and the pna is way positive...it will become very interesting if these indices play out as forecast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Add this winter to the list of winters where the consensus seemed to be that there was no way we would even sniff snow for the foreseeable future. The last thing I remember reading was how even the most pro-snow high profile mets had all but thrown in the towel til late Feb at this point. Then out of seemingly nowhere comes yet another ~12 inch storm. In the 80s the routine for coastal folks was that no matter how cold it might be, in all liklihood if the storm was big enough to care about it was going to change to rain. Now it seems the opposite happens - big snows preceded by 40, 50 (and now 60) degree days. For me it just means that never say never, that at any time a big one could be right around the corner, and not 240hrs out, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 NYC has 20.5" of snow this winter so far despite how some events were under measured...this makes five winters in a row with at least 20" for the season...This is the longest streak of winters with 20" of snow since the 1940's with seven... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowheavyattimes Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 40 minutes ago, coastalplainsnowman said: Add this winter to the list of winters where the consensus seemed to be that there was no way we would even sniff snow for the foreseeable future. The last thing I remember reading was how even the most pro-snow high profile mets had all but thrown in the towel til late Feb at this point. Then out of seemingly nowhere comes yet another ~12 inch storm. In the 80s the routine for coastal folks was that no matter how cold it might be, in all liklihood if the storm was big enough to care about it was going to change to rain. Now it seems the opposite happens - big snows preceded by 40, 50 (and now 60) degree days. For me it just means that never say never, that at any time a big one could be right around the corner, and not 240hrs out, either. Good post. I'm old enough to remember plenty of winters where we either had storms that were suppressed to our south and we got nothing or they tracked inland and we got snow changing to rain. Now we mostly get storms that are well timed and well placed. I don't know if it's just dumb luck or due to climate change but I just hope it continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Remaining cold days this month are the 10, 17, 18, and most of the period between the 23 and March 11. This is longest period of potential BN we have had for 23 months I think. Chance of a storm near 24th. too. But BN has a different meaning when we are passed Jan. 25 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Looks like we might get a bit of snow tomorrow night from the clipper. Maybe an inch in spots. Then we should watch Monday's storm to see if it trends south. Right now, that looks like a SNE Northward storm. After that, we might have to watch for a potential bigger storm at the end of next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Looks like we might get a bit of snow tomorrow night from the clipper. Maybe an inch in spots. Then we should watch Monday's storm to see if it trends south. Right now, that looks like a SNE Northward storm. After that, we might have to watch for a potential bigger storm at the end of next week. Don't think Sunday-Monday will work for us besides maybe some wrap-around snow showers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, NortheastPAWx said: Don't think Sunday-Monday will work for us besides maybe some wrap-around snow showers. Look at this past storm we have plenty of time for Monday's storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanksfan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 32 minutes ago, Snow88 said: Look at this past storm we have plenty of time for Monday's storm Would love to see it dig down to the Delmarva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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