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February Model Discussion


UlsterCountySnowZ

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23 minutes ago, NJwx85 said:

The Euro was weak for the day 7 storm.

Haven't seen the Euro, but on the GFS, the storm is loaded with moisture in the mid-south, then runs headlong into high pressure sitting off Nantucket. Terrible dynamics - there looks to be a decent fetch of moisture, but it's generally light and very fast-moving. Even more exaggerated on the GGEM. Sure looks like a minor event.

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14 minutes ago, winterwx21 said:

It had been showing nothing previously, so obviously it's an improvement. 

 

11 minutes ago, RDRY said:

Haven't seen the Euro, but on the GFS, the storm is loaded with moisture in the mid-south, then runs headlong into high pressure sitting off Nantucket. Terrible dynamics - there looks to be a decent fetch of moisture, but it's generally light and very fast-moving. Even more exaggerated on the GGEM. Sure looks like a minor event.

The problem is that it's absoultely weak sauce at H5, especially on the Euro. At least on the GFS you have some interaction going on with the Northern stream. On the Euro the Northern stream is way up in Alberta while the southern shortwave is already off the US coast. 

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12 minutes ago, UlsterCountySnowZ said:

Northern stream energy ends up getting ahead of the shortwave, we need the northern stream less amped, and slower, hybrid clipper with no phase on 18z.. hopefully just the crazy uncle

Some Winters it finds an excuse to snow, others it finds an excuse not too, this Winter is the ladder.

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14 minutes ago, UlsterCountySnowZ said:

Yea I was really counting on that Feb 6 events... GFS and ggem have caved to euro, weak system, day 10 looks to be our only shot if we can get it trend away from a cutter. Which has been the seasonal trend, most models have shown cutter day 6-10

At least Sunday's storm is still 5 days away, so there's enough time for it to trend back in the right direction. Hopefully we can get it a little more organized and at least squeeze a couple inches out of it. 

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9 minutes ago, mriceyman said:

Thanks for that elaborate and informative post lol

I don't have full access to the Euro so I can't really get into detail on what it showed. It looks like the northern stream was weaker this run and allows for the southern stream S/W to pop a low albeit weak off the mid Atlantic coast

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1 hour ago, mriceyman said:

Thanks for that elaborate and informative post lol

The euro is a lakes cutter for SB storm, some snow on the front end, no accumulation till you get NW of 84

 

 the  7-10 storm is a sheeted out mess and OTS of mid Atlantic coast

 

between .5- 1.0" rain more on E Long Island 

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23 minutes ago, UlsterCountySnowZ said:

The euro is a lakes cutter for SB storm, some snow on the front end, no accumulation till you get NW of 84

 

 the  7-10 storm is a sheeted out mess and OTS of mid Atlantic coast

 

between .5- 1.0" rain more on E Long Island 

So that would tell me the 7-10 storm isnt going to be as bad for vt as it looked yesterday? Thanks Ulst

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GFS 18z looked pretty cold. CAD signature, it depicts a decent amount of snow even for NYC. 

 

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GFS 18z develops another low along the boundary and cools the columns. Hopefully we get a storm to pop off the coast of North Carolina as the main one cuts in the Great Lakes. We really need that high around Quebec to hold strong so we get a secondary storm to take over and wrap around that cold air. It looks very interesting and moisture generous for sure.

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Im cautiously optimistic about early next week. Model runs have consistently continued to dig the low further south and have changed the primary to more of an overrunning low rather than a cutter. If we can get some more digging, this could produce at least some decent front end snows for most of us, similar to the December storm.

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Superbowl potential:

 

Nam has been on fire this year and ever since last years blizzard really but it is the nam 0z at 84 hrs so take it with a grain of salt.

 

The GFS 0z run doesn't have any of that light precip to our south whatsoever. Honestly I don't like the GFS anymore not that the nam is right just think GFS is a garbage model lately. 

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6 minutes ago, WeatherFeen2000 said:

Superbowl potential:

 

Nam has been on fire this year and ever since last years blizzard really but it is the nam 0z at 84 hrs so take it with a grain of salt.

 

The GFS 0z run doesn't have any of that light precip to our south whatsoever. Honestly I don't like the GFS anymore not that the nam is right just think GFS is a garbage model lately. 

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This shows nothing lol... weak shortwave, no interaction with the northern stream, gonna be the same solution as the GFS.... what are you referring to? 15fptfl.jpg

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