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37 minutes ago, CNY_WX said:

I'm surprised the ratio is that low. Must be from the taint that mixed in during the day. Ratios should be much higher during the second half of the storm. 

Yeah I'm guessing it's the taint that mixed in. I mean, maybe I could have measured 4.5" but still the ratio would be low.

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Back to -SN here in Lpool and I was looking at the surface tempd and winds and I n oticed winds in KROC out of the West and at KSYR from the East with 0 precip in between.  Obviously its a wind shift demarcation and I'd imagine once that passes us by we'll start to see the second part of this event begin in earnest.

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Latest reports from C NY...

 

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BINGHAMTON NY
517 PM EST SUN FEB 12 2017

THE FOLLOWING ARE OFFICIAL AND UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING
THE PAST 6 HOURS. APPRECIATION IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...
COOPERATIVE OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS.
THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/BGM.

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...BROOME COUNTY...
   2 SSE WHITNEY POINT    6.0  1216 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   BINGHAMTON REG ARPT    5.0   103 PM  2/12  ASOS
   ENDICOTT               3.7  1208 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   3 E VESTAL             1.0   223 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER

...CORTLAND COUNTY...
   FREETOWN CORNERS       6.6   130 PM  2/12  ELEVATION 1550 FT
   1 NE POKEVILLE         3.7   145 PM  2/12  ELEVATION 1420 FT

...DELAWARE COUNTY...
   FRENCH WOODS           8.0   100 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   DELHI                  6.0   215 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   WALTON                 4.7   135 PM  2/12  4.7 INCHES PAST 6 HOURS

...MADISON COUNTY...
   ONEIDA                 7.0   346 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   CHITTENANGO            4.0   446 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MUNNSVILLE             2.5   130 PM  2/12  ELEV 659

...ONEIDA COUNTY...
   1 S POINT ROCK         5.7   400 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   HOLLAND PATENT         3.5   430 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER

...ONONDAGA COUNTY...
   NORTH SYRACUSE         5.3   141 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   CLAY                   4.3   400 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   CICERO                 3.9   332 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 W CICERO             3.0   142 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   JAMESVILLE             2.8   415 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MARIETTA               1.2   127 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER

...OTSEGO COUNTY...
   ONEONTA                5.0   109 PM  2/12  5 INCHES IN 5 HOURS.
   UNADILLA               2.0   320 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER

 

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6 minutes ago, CNY-WXFREAK said:

Back to -SN here in Lpool and I was looking at the surface tempd and winds and I n oticed winds in KROC out of the West and at KSYR from the East with 0 precip in between.  Obviously its a wind shift demarcation and I'd imagine once that passes us by we'll start to see the second part of this event begin in earnest.

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Wind is out of the north here. 

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And from E NY...

 

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
339 PM EST SUN FEB 12 2017

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST 6
HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION. APPRECIATION
IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE OBSERVERS...SKYWARN
SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS. THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE
ON OUR HOME PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/ALBANY

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...ALBANY COUNTY...
   COLONIE                4.7   259 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6
   DELMAR                 4.5   228 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   ALBANY                 4.0   210 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   1 W ALBANY             3.8   151 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   1 ENE MCKOWNVILLE      3.0   100 PM  2/12  NWS ALBANY OFFICE

...COLUMBIA COUNTY...
   AUSTERLITZ             3.0   103 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6
   ANCRAMDALE             1.7  1202 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6

...DUTCHESS COUNTY...
   HYDE PARK              4.0   213 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   3 NE LAGRANGEVILLE     4.0   326 PM  2/12  PUBLIC
   LA GRANGE              3.8   200 PM  2/12  MOSTLY SLEET AT 145PM
   RED HOOK               2.8  1237 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6
   RHINEBECK              2.5  1143 AM  2/12  METEOROLOGIST
   1 WSW WEST PAWLING     2.0  1130 AM  2/12  PUBLIC
   LAGRANGEVILLE          1.5  1000 AM  2/12  METEOROLOGIST

...FULTON COUNTY...
   FISHHOUSE              7.5   308 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6
   PERTH                  5.0   225 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6

...GREENE COUNTY...
   NORTON HILL            6.5   200 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6
   GREENVILLE CENTER      5.5   100 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6

...HAMILTON COUNTY...
   2 ENE EAGLE BAY        2.0  1218 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER

...HERKIMER COUNTY...
   DOLGEVILLE             6.0   313 PM  2/12  6-HOUR TOTAL
   1 N GOODELL CORNERS    6.0   231 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   COLUMBIA CENTER        5.0   145 PM  2/12  PUBLIC

...MONTGOMERY COUNTY...
   AMSTERDAM              5.4   325 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6
   HESSVILLE              5.0   307 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6
   ROCKTON                1.0  1043 AM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER

...RENSSELAER COUNTY...
   1 N SYCAWAY            4.8   315 PM  2/12  NWS EMPLOYEE
   EAGLE MILLS            4.0   324 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   SCHODACK CENTER        3.6   257 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   EAST SCHODACK          0.9  1045 AM  2/12  FACEBOOK

...SARATOGA COUNTY...
   CLIFTON PARK           7.0   241 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   2 NNW BALLSTON SPA     5.2   245 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   EDDY CORNERS           5.0   306 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 W MILTON             5.0   148 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   N BALLSTON SPA         4.1   210 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 NNW GRAYS CORNERS    4.0   235 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   WILTON                 2.5   105 PM  2/12  PUBLIC
   GANSEVOORT             2.0  1149 AM  2/12  NWS EMPLOYEE
   LAKE DESOLATION        0.4  1015 AM  2/12  WEATHERNET6

...SCHENECTADY COUNTY...
   1 SSW AQUEDUCT         5.0   248 PM  2/12  NWS EMPLOYEE
   1 NNW NISKAYUNA        5.0   221 PM  2/12  NWS EMPLOYEE
   ROTTERDAM              5.0   225 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   SCHENECTADY            4.4   223 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6
   1 NNE HAWTHORNE HILL   3.5   135 PM  2/12  NWS EMPLOYEE
   SOUTH SCHENECTADY      2.6   124 PM  2/12  NWS EMPLOYEE

...SCHOHARIE COUNTY...
   CENTRAL BRIDGE         6.5   148 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   JEFFERSON              4.5   215 PM  2/12  WEATHERNET6
   SHARON SPRINGS         1.0  1034 AM  2/12  WEATHERNET6

...ULSTER COUNTY...
   LOMONTVILLE            4.5   135 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   1 NNW COTTEKILL        4.1  1220 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER

...WARREN COUNTY...
   3 N LAKE LUZERNE       3.0   212 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   GLENS FALLS            3.0   130 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
   HUDSON FALLS           2.0   125 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK
   SALEM                  2.0  1257 PM  2/12  FACEBOOK

 

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And N NY...

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT
612 PM EST SUN FEB 12 2017

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST 9
HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION. APPRECIATION
IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE AND COCORAHS
OBSERVERS...SKYWARN SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS. THIS
SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR HOME PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/BURLINGTON

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...CLINTON COUNTY...
   MORRISONVILLE          8.0   535 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 NNE PLATTSBURGH      6.0   448 PM  2/12  BROADCAST MEDIA
   4 ESE PERU             5.7   500 PM  2/12  COCORAHS

...ESSEX COUNTY...
   1 N LAKE PLACID        2.5   400 PM  2/12  COCORAHS

...ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY...
   SOUTH COLTON           3.0   143 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER

 

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Lastly, W NY...

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY
503 PM EST SUN FEB 12 2017

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

NEW YORK

...ERIE COUNTY...
   BUFFALO AIRPORT        0.2   400 PM  2/12  NWS OFFICE

...JEFFERSON COUNTY...
   REDWOOD                5.5   440 PM  2/12  SOCIAL MEDIA
   ADAMS CENTER           3.0   245 PM  2/12  TRAINED SPOTTER

...LEWIS COUNTY...
   BEAVER FALLS           3.5   230 PM  2/12  SOCIAL MEDIA

...OSWEGO COUNTY...
   PULASKI                6.3   400 PM  2/12  SOCIAL MEDIA

 

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i do not like the looks of this and I hope when the secondary gets going, it fills in with moisture, as no guidance showed this kind of drying at H700 this early in the event but I'm pretty confident it'll fill in once it starts deepening as well as once it transfers, it should start to throw moisture back our way but being this far West, but at this point, who knows.

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This is the one that is straight ugly even for ENY!

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This one, however, looks great to me as there is quite a bit of energy that's going to be coming together somewhere off the EC. Climatology would argue somewhere South of Long Island, as that's pretty much where most guidance had it I believe, unless I'm wrong as I didn't track this one.  Funny because the ones I do track wind up being cutters and the ones I don't track,end up decent events, so maybe I should stop tracking events altogether, lol!

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frzn/drz mixed with -sn currently falling with a temp of 28f.  Lets hope once the second stage begins,its a continuous mod-sometimes heavy sn throughout the night, as that would be awesome, instead of pieces of energy moving through and with each, a batch of sn/showers but if that is what happens, then we'll be hard pressed to hit our precip target of 9".  Tues-Wed event is shaping up to be almost a non-event here.  It looks like as the Southern Stream doesn't get involved this time around.  Well at least guidance isn't showing anything as of yet but that can easily change as there is plenty of energy to tap so we'll wait and see.  As of now its a 2-3" event but if the Southern Stream energy gets involved it can be an entirely different beast! Let me not get ahead of myself as we still have this event that hasn't even gotten going yet.

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Pressure falls are way out in the ATL South of the Benchmark??  Anyway, there could be some serious winds tonight along the South Shore into the Eastern LO region with Height rises as wind advisories have been posted for here.  Up by the Lake Shore, I don't know what KBUF is figuring but are there adv's or warnings up?  Wow, no mention from KBUF regarding high winds along the lake shore is interesting as perhaps they don't see much.

3 hr Pressure Change Contour - Current

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Just now, CNY-WXFREAK said:

No wonder why the Clay number is the most conservative, all the time, lol!! 

How long have you been a spotter for the NWS?  DId you go to their class on measuring snow properly?  We were actually taught how to measure snow properly, in one of our labs, when I was up at Oswego State.

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19 minutes ago, phoenixny said:

4.5" for Phoenix. Sleet and freezing rain currently. Winds starting to pick up.

How are you getting sleet and fzrn when currently critical thicknesses are all below 0c. That's very interesting and just goes to show that the atmosphere does what it wants, when it wants.  

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