gravitylover Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 So what's the timing on the mess this weekend? Snow overnight tonight, mix tomorrow during the day, more snow tomorrow night or nothing tonight and all of the precip is tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 12 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: Thanks id appreciate it So my brother said if it was a damp spot it may have been snow that got blown in through the vent but with modern vents that really shouldn't happen. He said that if it was out right dripping water he was thinking it wasn't snow blown in but some other roof problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 5 hours ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: I'm tracking how quickly or not the mid to late March climate will melt the current snow pack. I picked a flat spot that has no sun until the afternoon. I ended the evening on Tuesday the 14th with a snow pack of 21 inches. By Wednesday morning even with frigid overnight temps near 10 the compression had brought it down to 19.5 inches. With the high of 22 on Wednesday, little sun and snow showers throughout the day the snow pack Thursday morning was 18.8, probably mostly compression more than anything. After a high of 35 yesterday the snow pack this morning (Friday) was 17.5 inches. It's standing up pretty well considering the time of year and sun angle. I'm hoping to enter April with the lawn at least still covered. That's my kind of March. I'll be tracking this every day so people that like to watch paint dry can also follow this. I find it interesting at least, which says a lot about me. At 1pm today I had 18.5" at the stake. The march sun is def doing its dirty work. Expecting a general 2-4" for the area. I guess there is that possibility of something higher in isolated areas but as we all know these IVTs can set up shop anywhere and just dump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I'm down to 12" at my stake, I believe. There are plenty of spots deeper than that and other spot less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I've said it in a few threads already and I'll say it again. The ground is not frozen under this snow so it's melting from both sides. It will be gone in very little time compared to if it was on frozen ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 going to have to wait to hear Mt Holy NWS informs later tonight. .SHORT TERM /6 AM SATURDAY MORNING THROUGH 6 PM SATURDAY/... Concern for a band of heavy wet snow developing from Sussex through Morris county NJ late Saturday afternoon. WSW update possible at 930 PM Friday. GFS and NAM RGEM are quite wet and I think more correct than the drier EC/GGEM. The reasoning is instability with a healthy easterly inflow developing Saturday evening into the oncoming closing off upper low. The heaviest snowfall would be elevation based. Closed lows aloft are bad news, especially northern half. No major changes attm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, gravitylover said: I've said it in a few threads already and I'll say it again. The ground is not frozen under this snow so it's melting from both sides. It will be gone in very little time compared to if it was on frozen ground. Totally agree. One of the best packs was in 2015 that built itself on top of frozen ground after that freezing rain event, the base of the pack was literally ice. Not at all the case this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 57 minutes ago, gravitylover said: I've said it in a few threads already and I'll say it again. The ground is not frozen under this snow so it's melting from both sides. It will be gone in very little time compared to if it was on frozen ground. Yep. Plus, my pack is carpeted with pine needles from the wind which darkens it and heats it up even quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Juliancolton said: Yep. Plus, my pack is carpeted with pine needles from the wind which darkens it and heats it up even quicker. That's a location specific issue, very few areas have that problem. In fact, for the most part this is a pretty clean pack from what I see in my travels around the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Appears as though it wants to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Point, NY Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 A very pleasant light sow falling. Started off as grains but mostly flakes now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Thanks Stella for the billboards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Sweet! Always nice when the whole yard is a beer cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 6 hours ago, IrishRob17 said: Thanks Stella for the billboards solid photos. did u drink melted down stella water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Quote New Jersey ... Morris County... Kinnelon 0.8 702 PM 3/18 public Succasunna 0.7 800 PM 3/18 social media ... Sussex County... Hopatcong 1.1 758 PM 3/18 social media Highland Lakes 0.9 708 PM 3/18 trained spotter Wantage 0.5 705 PM 3/18 trained spotter I wish more spotters would indicate elevation with their reports. I got 1.0" exactly, and would be interested in seeing how others at varying elevations did in terms of accumulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 1 minute ago, JerseyWx said: I wish more spotters would indicate elevation with their reports. I got 1.0" exactly, and would be interested in seeing how others at varying elevations did in terms of accumulations. I dont think its the spotters, its the report itself. Ive always included elevation during elevation dependent events and such, and ive never seen it listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, BxEngine said: I dont think its the spotters, its the report itself. Ive always included elevation during elevation dependent events and such, and ive never seen it listed. Oh alright, I assumed when the elevation was listed that meant they put it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 After a high of 56 Tuesday (21st) with sun most of the day and a Wednesday morning low of 29, the snow pack Wednesday (22nd) morning is 7.5 inches. Yesterday 3.5 inches in snow depth was lost, the biggest loss in a day since I began following. A 56 degree day in late March with full sun, will do that. If this was not a mature snow pack most likely more would have been lost yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 Well looks like this round is just going to be wet here. It popped above freezing a little while ago so I'm guessing chances of it starting frozen are slim to none. I was hoping for a glaze to start, after two cold days and nights it would have been nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 24, 2017 Share Posted March 24, 2017 On 3/22/2017 at 7:01 AM, CPcantmeasuresnow said: After a high of 56 Tuesday (21st) with sun most of the day and a Wednesday morning low of 29, the snow pack Wednesday (22nd) morning is 7.5 inches. Yesterday 3.5 inches in snow depth was lost, the biggest loss in a day since I began following. A 56 degree day in late March with full sun, will do that. If this was not a mature snow pack most likely more would have been lost yesterday. Here is what I got in the yard. Mid winter on the ridge line. Weekly High temps Monday - 48.7 Tuesday - 56.2 Wednesday - 39.5 Thursday - 38.5 Friday - 44.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 UPDATED - March 25, 2017 I'm tracking how quickly or not the mid to late March climate will melt the current snow pack. I picked a flat spot that has no sun until the afternoon. I ended the evening on Tuesday the 14th with a high of 26 that day with a snow pack of 21 inches. By Wednesday (15th) morning, with an overnight low of 17, the compression had brought it down to 19.5 inches. With the high of 24 on Wednesday, little sun and snow showers throughout the day and a Thursday morning low of 20, the snow pack Thursday (16th) morning, probably due more to compression than anything is 18.8 inches. After a high of 35 Thursday and a Friday morning low of 11, the snow pack Friday (17th) morning is 17.5 inches. After a high of 45 Friday and a Saturday morning low of 10, the snow pack Saturday (18th) morning is 15.2 inches. After a high of 35 Saturday with clouds and snow showers most of the day and a Sunday morning low of 23, Sunday (19th) morning is 15.1 inches. After a high of 44 Sunday (19th) with sun most of the day and a Monday morning low of 16, the snow pack Monday (20th) morning is 12.6 inches. After a high of 49 Monday (20th) with sun most of the day and a Tuesday morning low of 32, the snow pack Tuesday (21st) morning is 11.0 inches. After a high of 56 Tuesday (21st) with sun most of the day and a Wednesday morning low of 29, the snow pack Wednesday (22nd) morning is 7.5 inches. After an afternoon high of 29 Wednesday (22nd) with sun and high winds most of the day and an impressive Thursday morning low of 10, the snow pack Thursday (23rd) morning is 6.8 inches. After an afternoon high of 41 Thursday (23rd) with sun most of the day and a Friday morning low of 21, the snow pack Friday (24th) morning is 6.0 inches. After an afternoon high of 47 Friday (24th) with clouds most of the day and a little rain and a Saturday morning low of 33, the snow pack Saturday (25th) morning is down to 4.7 inches. Yesterday 1.3 inches in snow depth was lost. It is interesting to note that the inches lost each day seems to decrease the lower the depth becomes as the compression and LE of the remaining snow increases proportionately to the remaining snow depth. Areas on hills sloping towards the sun all day and under trees have bare spots. I would probably target Tuesday the 28th when the landscape will be more than 50% snow less. 82 days of snow cover this winter and counting, to be continued tomorrow. Below is the snow cover of 1 inch or more so far this season. Despite a top ten warmest December through February it stands at 82 days and counting this season. ..............Eastern Orange County Winter 2016/17 ................Days with snowpack and total snow .........................................Consecutive......Snowfall Begin date........End Date.....Days 1" cover....during period 20-Nov-16.......26-Nov-16.........6...................4.0 05-Dec-16.......26-Dec-16........21..................9.6 29-Dec-16.......31-Dec-16..........2..................1.7 06-Jan-17........12-Jan-17..........6..................2.7 14-Jan-17........16-Jan-17..........2..................1.0 23-Jan-17........22-Feb-17.........30................26.0 10-Mar-17........25-Mar-17.........15................25.7 ...............................Totals......82................70.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Current snow depth this morning is around 6-8 inches in my yard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 I really hate this spring so far. I want February back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I just wish this snow would melt already. Even though we have a few bare spots there is still plenty of snow around. On the property snow depths range anywhere from 0" to 8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I finally crossed over to more bare areas than snow in my yard but there is still plenty in the woods, rather impressive actually. Not sure when I'll get the yard cleaned up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 16 hours ago, snywx said: I just wish this snow would melt already. Even though we have a few bare spots there is still plenty of snow around. On the property snow depths range anywhere from 0" to 8" I just wanna play some damn golf lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 UPDATED - March 28, 2017 Below I tracked the daily progress of how quickly the 21 inch snow pack that stood at the end of the evening of Tuesday March 14th would stand up to the mid to late March sun. I picked a flat spot that has no sun until the afternoon. With no additional measurable snow after the 14th it took 15 days to reduce the 21 inch snow cover to less than an inch over less than 50% of the landscape. It was a flawed study in many respects but I did find it more interesting than watching paint dry but not by a wide margin. I noted several things during the period as noted below. The day of the greatest loss in depth was Tuesday the 21st when the high hit 56 and the next days morning low was 29. 3.5 inches of snow was lost during that 24 hour period. It was the warmest day during the period so perfectly understandable. From 10 pm Tuesday night the 14th, to 8 am Wednesday morning the 15th with temperatures in the teens and snow showers throughout the night the snow compressed and settled overnight from 21.0 to 19.5 inches. It may have been even a little more as the snow showers most likely added a few tenths of an inch overnight but like the conservancy I did not add that to my snow totals. The least amount of snow depth lost on a day when there was no additional snow was on Wednesday the 22nd when the high hit only 29 but with sun and high winds most of the day and the next morning low of 10 only 0.7 inches of depth was lost that day, from 7.5 to 6.8 inches. Also of note the day after the storm on the 15th, when the high only reached 24 and there was virtually no sun during the day and scattered snow showers throughout the day with the next days morning low of 20 the snow depth decreased from 19.5 to 18.8 inches a similar 0.7 inch loss as was seen on the 22nd. Since snow showers may have also added several tenths of an inch during the day most likely the loss that day was due more to additional compression and settling than melting. On Saturday the 18th with clouds and snow showers most of the day and a high of 35 and a Sunday morning low of 23 the depth only went down 0.1 inches from 15.2 to 15.1. I was gone during most of the day and evening so I can only assume the snow showers during the afternoon added several tenths of an inch to the snowpack even though nothing stuck on paved surfaces. The day by day progress I ended the evening on Tuesday the 14th with a high of 26 that day with a snow pack of 21 inches. By Wednesday (15th) morning, with an overnight low of 17, the compression had brought it down to 19.5 inches. With the high of 24 on Wednesday (15th), little sun and snow showers throughout the day and a Thursday morning low of 20, the snow pack Thursday (16th) morning, probably due more to compression than anything is 18.8 inches. After a high of 35 Thursday (16th) and a Friday morning low of 11, the snow pack Friday (17th) morning is 17.5 inches. After a high of 45 Friday (17th) and a Saturday morning low of 10, the snow pack Saturday (18th) morning is 15.2 inches. After a high of 35 Saturday (18th) with clouds and snow showers most of the day and a Sunday morning low of 23, Sunday (19th) morning is 15.1 inches. After a high of 44 Sunday (19th) with sun most of the day and a Monday morning low of 16, the snow pack Monday (20th) morning is 12.6 inches. After a high of 49 Monday (20th) with sun most of the day and a Tuesday morning low of 32, the snow pack Tuesday (21st) morning is 11.0 inches. After a high of 56 Tuesday (21st) with sun most of the day and a Wednesday morning low of 29, the snow pack Wednesday (22nd) morning is 7.5 inches. After an afternoon high of 29 Wednesday (22nd) with sun and high winds most of the day and an impressive Thursday morning low of 10, the snow pack Thursday (23rd) morning is 6.8 inches. After an afternoon high of 41 Thursday (23rd) with sun most of the day and a Friday morning low of 21, the snow pack Friday (24th) morning is 6.0 inches. After an afternoon high of 47 Friday (24th) with clouds most of the day and a little rain and a Saturday morning low of 33, the snow pack Saturday (25th) morning is down to 4.7 inches. After an afternoon high of 42 Saturday (25th) with clouds and some drizzle and light rain most of the day and a Sunday morning low of 31, the snow pack Sunday (26th) morning is down to 3.3 inches. After an afternoon high of only 36 Sunday (26th) with clouds and and light rain most of the day and a Monday morning low of 33, the snow pack Monday (27th) morning is down to 2.5 inches. After an afternoon high of 46 Monday (27th) with clouds and and light rain at times through the day and a Tuesday morning low of 36, the snow pack Tuesday (28th) morning is down to 1.2 inches and will end the 18 consecutive days of snow pack for the month after today and 85 days for the season. Yesterday 1.3 inches in snow depth was lost, with the depth now at 1.2 inches in the flat areas that receive 1/2 sun and 1/2 shade and about 50% total coverage the winter barring any April snows will end with 85 days of snow cover, and 18 consecutive days this March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Pretty much down to piles and remnant drifts now, the snowcover is all but gone even on shaded and northerly aspects. The "quality" of the mud is impressive, step into it and it will suck the shoe off your foot. More rain today, yuck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Gents, very off topic here, but I have a friend whose looking to purchase a home in the New Paltz area (currently lives in Philly), towards the Gunks. If you know of any reputable attorneys who can handle a residential purchase, send me a message. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Friday night still looks very interesting for northern and/or elevated areas. Looking at the soundings, that would be rain -> snow -> sleet -> rain imby, but another tick or two colder and an epic paste job would be within reach. I've been idly watching this threat for something like a week now, and I am pleasantly surprised that a wintry event is still in the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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