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Winter Storm 1/6 - 1/8, 2017


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1 minute ago, shaggy said:

I was in the bullseye just at the 06z run.and now it's gone. Never good to be a sweet spot this far in advance 

Agree. For your area WAA killing it. Safe bet would be Guilford, Alamance, Rockingham, Forsyth.

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That's just another beautiful run, two in a row now. Gotta get the Euro and Canadian in agreeing with leaving the pac low being a bit. Matt East commented in his video today that a few months ago this same situation happened and the GFS scored the coup and was right on leaving it behind.

Doesn't make it right, but at least there's a chance. Can't get our hopes up, but if I'm being honest, I'm pretty fired up.

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5 minutes ago, griteater said:

I remember the old NAM with 20-26 inches in Charlotte area before the Feb 04 storm

If I remember correctly, didn't that area get a foot with surface temps marginal at best? Seems the precip rates were off the charts with thundersnow, but surface temps above freezing. Had there been cold surface temps that 20-26 inches could have came to fruition.

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2 minutes ago, Cheeznado said:

Everyone take a deep breath. You will get a stroke watching every run like this. Yes, I am now a bit more interested in seeing what plays out, but do not get your expectations too high just yet. Just sayin' :D

It's tough not to get excited when seeing the last two GFS runs. Good advice on waiting for the euro since it needs to show us the same thing.

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4 minutes ago, BIG FROSTY said:

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GFS looks too far south to me as per usual bias. Its all over the place, next run something different


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translation...it must be wrong because it doesn't show enough snow for the mid atlantic and northeast. Always has to find a way to hype things for the center of the weather universe. 

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4 minutes ago, BIG FROSTY said:

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GFS looks too far south to me as per usual bias. Its all over the place, next run something different


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I understand where he's coming from.  The pattern favors a more northern system overall.  However, because of the current timing the GFS has the system is perfectly timed to not go north.

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3 minutes ago, griteater said:

Yeah you want that sweet spot to your south at this range for sure

My best hope is the euro and CMC stay strung out a bit and less amped and the  the storm to be a combination of the gfs and those. That's really my best bet at a big one but we have an eternity in "weather time" to watch this.

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Let's fast forward to Thursday, shall we? Sometimes I hate big storm potential more than I enjoy it.

2 minutes ago, shaggy said:

My best hope is the euro and CMC stay strung out a bit and less amped and the  the storm to be a combination of the gfs and those. That's really my best bet at a big one but we have an eternity in "weather time" to watch this.

Anecdotally this is what I want, simply because I've seen so many storms cut north this year.

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14 minutes ago, griteater said:

I remember the old NAM with 20-26 inches in Charlotte area before the Feb 04 storm

Don't you talk about Feb 04 Grit, don't you do it. 

Similar storm but I think we had good blocking on 04. Still wondering how this is so suppressed on all the models.

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2 minutes ago, shaggy said:

My best hope is the euro and CMC stay strung out a bit and less amped and the  the storm to be a combination of the gfs and those. That's really my best bet at a big one but we have an eternity in "weather time" to watch this.

Hey Shaggy, good to hear from you again.... I think a compromise of the big dog we just saw modeled and a less amped more southern solution is certainly possible.  

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A lot depends on the speed of the s/w.  At 0z Jan 6, we find:

0z Euro: s/w is weaker and faster located in NV at the time -> strung out

0z GFS/12z NAM: slower [and/or] stronger and over W Oregon -> amped up and further north (at least with the 0z GFS)

18z, 6z, 12z GFS: in the middle of these solutions, located near SE Oregon -> money

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2 minutes ago, griteater said:

The Atlanta to Raleigh to shaggy folks would like this UKMet look at this time range....while the Big Frosty folks would like the GFS better

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This is opposite of what we usually see with the gfs wanting to shear out/ crush waves coming out under a trough.  Usually the euro is over amped and the gfs is a weak strung out mess.

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