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Mid to Long Term Discussion 2017


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34 minutes ago, griteater said:

18z GFS Ens members - 8 cutters, 8 SE wintry storms, 4 others

I just don't see how this pattern supports lake cutters. With the WC ridging and weak -nao. The only choice would be southern sliders considering really the only PV on the planet is displaced from the Arctic near Hudson Bay. Basically the same place it's been after the huge pattern flip following Irma. Just too much energy flowing around the PV and undercutting Pacific Jet for the models to make sense of. The potential is there for nothing but clippers to big storms sliding along the south. 

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2 hours ago, BlunderStorm said:

http://www.weather.gov/ http://www.pivotalweather.com/ https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/ https://weather.us/ http://wx.graphics/ https://www.wunderground.com/ http://www.intellicast.com/ These are my main sources. All free and all accessible. For Euro ensemble maps I use weather.us. Here is one wild member for a good part of Texas and pretty much everyone else in the Southeast.

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Looks like a Jan 88' redux blueprint 

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1 hour ago, griteater said:

Dec to date snowfall percent of normal.  It's off in some areas like RDU to CLT to GSP to Athens to Macon, GA corridor I think...and others I'm sure...but it gives the general idea of snowfall across the country....skimpy out west.

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They missed the snow hole over mine and Mack's house

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Stop focusing on how much it's going to snow, when it's going to snow, and start focusing on the fact a pattern that can facilitate a large snow is emerging and enjoy the development. You obsess about the outcome far too much when what's creating the possibility is the most fascinating. In all liklihood if something of this nature shown previous becomes the outcome GA/SC will get hammered with ice, because southern, but it's still quite a nice change to have such an impactful December. Even the hint of this is quite a welcome Christmas present for most southerners.

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1 hour ago, FLweather said:

I just don't see how this pattern supports lake cutters. With the WC ridging and weak -nao. The only choice would be southern sliders considering really the only PV on the planet is displaced from the Arctic near Hudson Bay. Basically the same place it's been after the huge pattern flip following Irma. Just too much energy flowing around the PV and undercutting Pacific Jet for the models to make sense of. The potential is there for nothing but clippers to big storms sliding along the south. 

Lol my man.  You can get lake cutters in any pattern.  Don’t tempt the weather gods like that!

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6 minutes ago, mackerel_sky said:

Rain coming in about 10 hours ahead of schedule! That'll bode well and will happen with our winter storm in about 10 days! Gosh, just reminiscing about the Jan 88 storm! I remember waking up at 5 AM and already having 1" and the snow didn't stop till about 10 pm! It was truly amazeballs!

I've noticed that.  This little system packing a punch.  Nam and gfs been trending stronger before it shears it out.  We shall see? Looks pretty healthy on WV and maybe over performer slightly.

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1 hour ago, mackerel_sky said:

Rain coming in about 10 hours ahead of schedule! That'll bode well and will happen with our winter storm in about 10 days! Gosh, just reminiscing about the Jan 88 storm! I remember waking up at 5 AM and already having 1" and the snow didn't stop till about 10 pm! It was truly amazeballs!

Yeah, I'd love another 88 too but I think we have to accept that was probably once in a lifetime, kinda like Feb 73 for Midlands to coast. Actually I'd like another Dec 1886, from the map I found looks like GSP area got around 26 in.

Just so hard to get a big snow here; mtns blocking cold, warm nose, waa, warm bubble, too far south, too far north, too far west, SER, surface above freezing, to far from coast to benefit from noreasters, too far from gulf to get good train without pushing out cold, downsloping, lee side drying, on and on and on...

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33 minutes ago, Rankin5150 said:

Jan 88 is TOTAL PORN to my eyes/ears. Ahhh...the memories. 

Seeing that Hawaii snow warning reminds me of he January 88 storm in Raleigh. It was about a week before I recall watching the news about a massive rain storm in Hawaii then boom, not to long after we had the Jan 88 snow.  Petty sure that was the year.

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8 minutes ago, Iceagewhereartthou said:

Yeah, I'd love another 88 too but I think we have to accept that was probably once in a lifetime, kinda like Feb 73 for Midlands to coast. Actually I'd like another Dec 1886, from the map I found looks like GSP area got around 26 in.

Just so hard to get a big snow here; mtns blocking cold, warm nose, waa, warm bubble, too far south, too far north, too far west, SER, surface above freezing, to far from coast to benefit from noreasters, too far from gulf to get good train without pushing out cold, downsloping, lee side drying, on and on and on...

I remember reading about that 1886 storm! It lasted two days I believe and was very cold

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