JoshM Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Euro still looking good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco-lemonade Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 there is no better signal for snow in central or western nc than this image right here not to be taken verbatim of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, Disco-lemonade said: there is no better snow signal for snow in central or western nc than this image right here not to be taken verbatim of course Clipper after that is looking a little more robust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, JoshM said: Euro still looking good Any snow on in the NE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 06z GFS looks wetter and a touch faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 9 hours ago, BornAgain13 said: Any chance this thing phases next weekend? To a full fledged bomb closed and all. No. Don't believe so. Room for improvement and stronger system yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 hours ago, frazdaddy said: 06z GFS looks wetter and a touch faster. Right now the odds are not great that this produces (for next weekend). RAH stated last night there would be a lack of a high pressure to our north (...GL low). Even so, it looks close and we can hope the models start showing a more favorable setup in the next day or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Next 24 to 48 hours will play a huge impact on outcome of next weeks potential storm. It's happening now ATM. If you look via satellite the storminess across MT WY ID NV UT is next weeks front. To lay the cold foundation aloft and surface too. Where the frontal trough sets up aloft and surface will be the baroclinic zone after initial passage. Moisture will pool from TX GOM to FL. But where? How far does the cold actually push? The real question is how much Northern Stream dives down to undercut cut the building ridge aloft out west. Does it close or does it open?!. If it closes then yeah potential for any snow is out of the question. If it closes than that's a Rex block with the closed high and low. The second question is how much northern stream energy dives down. If it's not closed does it stay condensed or does it shear open? IMO that's the huge difference among the GFS/Euro. Third main question would be timing issues. If the 500mb energy is condensed instead of sheared. How will it react to 2 strong shortwave? Fourth main question would be timing issues too. What if the 500mb energy is condensed across TX with 2 shortwave diving down? How far apart? What kind of phasing could occur? Expect some more model changes in the next 24-48 hours. But if anything is locked onto won't be till 24-36 from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 From RAH this morning: The pattern beyond the next arctic front appears to continue to be a colder than normal one, with the reloading of the eastern U.S. trough again in the mid December time frame. The cold will become the main theme as 2017 ends, with 15-20 degree below normal temperature departures possible in the 8-14 day period. This would yield highs in the 30s and lows in the teens for many areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Wow...impressive. To bad 2m’s aren’t already cold prior. Atleast a trend towards a coastal is growing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, packbacker said: Wow...impressive. To bad 2m’s aren’t already cold prior. Atleast a trend towards a coastal is growing. Yeah, it's sad that for whatever reason, the mega-cold does not get here after the frontal passage, cause as stated, it's looking like moisture won't be a problem. Hoping for colder trends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Still some time for improvement. CMC has the GL low much farther north (compared to GFS) allowing more cold air to feed into our area; but it also keeps the low much farther out to sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 The warmth for the storm is in the lowest layers which can be easier to overcome than other stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 26 minutes ago, griteater said: The warmth for the storm is in the lowest layers which can be easier to overcome than other stuff 2000 feet snowstorms are the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAD_Wedge_NC Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yeah, a few slushy "cat-paws" on the windshield mixed with the rain while 1000' above you is a good snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 47 minutes ago, griteater said: The warmth for the storm is in the lowest layers which can be easier to overcome than other stuff I could care less about the coastal, I'm all in on the trailing clipper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SN_Lover Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Would like to point out the lack of snow coverage in the CONUS as of today.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, SN_Lover said: Would like to point out the lack of snow coverage in the CONUS as of today.... That's what 60s and 70s basically nationwide will do! Hopefully in two weeks, it will look drastically different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PisgahNCWeather Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yep and it is going to be fun to watch how quickly it changes over the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, mackerel_sky said: That's what 60s and 70s basically nationwide will do! Hopefully in two weeks, it will look drastically different! This winter is off to a warm-tastic start. Looking at the GFS...we finally drop below freezing next Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, packbacker said: This winter is off to a warm-tastic start. Looking at the GFS...we finally drop below freezing next Sunday Lol! This is for today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 minute ago, mackerel_sky said: Lol! This is for today Yep...just showing you how great today is. Hopefully this keeps up, the nose bleed dry cold will get old quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, packbacker said: Yep...just showing you how great today is. Hopefully this keeps up, the nose bleed dry cold will get old quickly. Today sucks! Should hit 70-71 around here! Will make the cold feel even worse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAD_Wedge_NC Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Actually, I don't mind the short-term warmth, since I know that it's only going to last a few more days. Look at the indices today. AO,NAO and PNA still in our favor for the next 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Met1985 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 23 minutes ago, packbacker said: Yep...just showing you how great today is. Hopefully this keeps up, the nose bleed dry cold will get old quickly. That will be a great contrast this time next weekend. A huge difference. 60s today here to highs in the 20s this time next week. Reminds me of years past December's where we would have 70 degrees one day and snow the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC_hailstorm Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Ukie has a 1009 low right off Cape Hattaras at 144,temps look marginal. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 18 minutes ago, NC_hailstorm said: Ukie has a 1009 low right off Cape Hattaras at 144,temps look marginal. Carry on. I think temps are going to be way more of an issue than moisture, but when is it not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just now, mackerel_sky said: I think temps are going to be way more of an issue than moisture, but when is it not! Always down here. Really a shame, this would probably be a realistic snow/ice threat if it was Jan 8th. Coastal with -AO/-NAO/+PNA/-EPO and we rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy1987 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 25 minutes ago, packbacker said: Always down here. Really a shame, this would probably be a realistic snow/ice threat if it was Jan 8th. Coastal with -AO/-NAO/+PNA/-EPO and we rain. Pack I’m on my phone. How are thermals up my way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Anxiously awaiting Dr NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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