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Mid to Long Term Discussion 2017


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13 hours ago, WidreMann said:

That trough looks progressive. But at least it's a trough!

Hopefully the overall pattern will turn for the better. Current indices do show some hope:

PNA - Finally looks to go towards neutral in the LR

AO - Looks to go negative in the LR

NAO - Looks to go negative in the LR

This has been a long stretch of -PNA, +AO, and +NAO.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/teleconnections.shtml

  

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29 minutes ago, FallsLake said:

Hopefully the overall pattern will turn for the better. Current indices do show some hope:

PNA - Finally looks to go towards neutral in the LR

AO - Looks to go negative in the LR

NAO - Looks to go negative in the LR

This has been a long stretch of -PNA, +AO, and +NAO.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/teleconnections.shtml

  

Good, especially the NAO.  It's usually the other way going into the winter.

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It'll happen. Avg day of 1st frost is OCT 20th ish this area. It's absurdly warm humid for this time of year but it's just a by product of the pattern we are in. Seen it upper 70s near 80 in early November before for 5 to 10 day stretches. 

Thanks to some wedge back door front, this heat wave is shutting down after today. Sun into Mon could warm up some, but this is the end. Back to our regularly scheduled Fall after today.

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Water....like....crazy.  Its been so dang dry that many folks here in the piedmont just now put out seed thinking it would be wet this week.  Ugh, no!  You have about 2 weeks left to water in that seed and get it to germinate or lose that $50-$100 you spent.  What a horrible summer this was, and if we end up with a wet and mild winter the whole state of NC will be nothing but moss and clover.  

On a bright note, those mid40s showing up in 5 days for northern NC and into the foothills will feel awesome!!

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2 hours ago, kvegas-wx said:

Water....like....crazy.  Its been so dang dry that many folks here in the piedmont just now put out seed thinking it would be wet this week.  Ugh, no!  You have about 2 weeks left to water in that seed and get it to germinate or lose that $50-$100 you spent.  What a horrible summer this was, and if we end up with a wet and mild winter the whole state of NC will be nothing but moss and clover.  

On a bright note, those mid40s showing up in 5 days for northern NC and into the foothills will feel awesome!!

The way this winter is looking, you could put out seed Dec-Feb , and it would germinate! May have to continue to water, Ninas aren't known for their wetness! 

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3 hours ago, Upstate Tiger said:

At least we are finally starting to see some signals that the NAO is trending negative after mid month:

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/pna/nao_index_mrf.shtml

Sadly, after a few days of fall weather, it's back to a pattern that blows!! Blowtorches that is! #WINNINGFALL

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7 hours ago, Solak said:

Michael VentriceVerified account @MJVentrice 41m41 minutes ago

 
 

Latest ECMWF EPS calling for ridge amplification o/the eastern U.S. late next week. Another round of unseasonably warm temperatures expected

EURO tends to overdo eastern ridges in the long term. Hopefully it's a more "normal" warm period than astronomically so.

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The long-range Euro is bad, but it hints that we could have a better pattern thereafter. The really annoying west coast/AK super-low that's been plaguing us the past month looks like it'll retrograde and weaken some. There may be a ridge building along the west coast. So perhaps in the 12-16 day time period, we'll have more troughiness, or at least normal, in the east. The GFS does show the development of significant troughing in the east in that time period, with what could be the beginning of a -NAO with the ridge developing over the far NE of North America. Whether this comes to fruition, I have no idea.

The nice thing about the ridging return is that instead of 591-594 with a solid ridge, we are more on the edge, and the ridge strength is generally more in the lower 580s. So it'll be abnormally warm, but not as bad, hopefully.

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