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Mid to Long Term Discussion 2017


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8 minutes ago, FallsLake said:

We better get something on the 10th. If the GFS is right the cold air leaves the lower 48 ~ mid month.

 

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So much for a Presidents' Day event.  That map looks more like April.  It's actually kind of alarming to think spring arrives in Feb.

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7 hours ago, packbacker said:

Keep waiting to see a run where trailing sw amplifies and we get a patented day 8-9 GFS fantasy snow. 

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I agree Pack, this is what to watch. If we can just get that energy on the end to amplify just a tad sooner than the 00z GFS we would be in business. Need the ridge to amplify as well. Just goes neutral way too late otherwise this would have been a big hit. 

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40 minutes ago, BristowWx said:

So much for a Presidents' Day event.  That map looks more like April.  It's actually kind of alarming to think spring arrives in Feb.

GFS always overdoes the cold in long range, maybe it is overdoing the torch! Most likely not!? I thought the 2nd half of Feb, was gonna be rockin!?

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10 minutes ago, packfan98 said:

Yep...the dreaded NW trend happens every time.  Remember back in the sixties when we actually had good winds around here.

Yes indeed!  And also back in the late 1800s.

1 minute ago, franklin NCwx said:

I thought the whole month was gonna torch? 

That was only after mid-Month, according to Cledus Timothius.

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PNA looks to go +1 in the LR --great

AO looks to average -3 or so in the LR --great

NAO looks to do what it always does and stay positive --bad as usual  

So the PNA and AO look even better than yesterday but the NAO has taken a step back; in which yesterday it looked to maybe go slightly negative.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/teleconnections.shtml

 

 

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7 minutes ago, mackerel_sky said:

You Rollin' doo- doo, you rollllin'! :( everyone remember that classic 90s jam!? That how we roll, like a doo-doo pie 

JB has to be curled up in the fetal position this morning.  Not sure how he can sugar coat a BN Feb at this point.

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Even if the GFS was to verify in the LR, the SE would not necessarily torch (in terms of way above surface temps). As the whole country is swamped with a warm air mass the predominate wind direction into the SE could still be from the north (as shown on the day 16 GFS). The incoming temps would not be able to support winter storms but would keep the SE closer to normal; as others in the country do torch (relative to normal). We could even see CAD setups (40s an rain). So basically don't expect 70s and 80s.     

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26 minutes ago, packbacker said:

Twitter is a firestorm today...literally.  Not sure I have seen a week 3 of the CFS tweeted out this much, LOL.  Winter's over is the theme....maybe we reverse what happened in Jan with the last week cold/snowy and front 3 blowtorch.

 

It's a bit comical that run was available two days ago but respected mets and others are just now posting that forecast recently...that's as bad as cold hypers, but the warm hypers will never be called out. 

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11 minutes ago, Jon said:

It's a bit comical that run was available two days ago but respected mets and others are just now posting that forecast recently...that's as bad as cold hypers, but the warm hypers will never be called out. 

Glenn Burns! There, all I ever see him post is above normal everything!! He is the Packbacker of SE mets! lol 

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