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  On 12/19/2017 at 9:33 PM, SnowNiner said:

Yay, fantasy snow maps.  I like this game! If any of those ensemble members came true I'd gladly take 3 zero snow years as payment.  

Now if we could just get them on an operational run.  

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You may regret that when the 2019-20 winter rolls around and you haven't seen snow in 2 years !

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  On 12/19/2017 at 9:51 PM, goldman75 said:

Let’s reel in this bad boy.  Start the thread!  Beach snow is a given, mark my words and screenshot this post for later.  I’m pretty much an expert, I’ve been here all summer.  

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The beaches are due, but no, this would be an epic fail. If they got 12+ while I collected a backend dusting I don't think I would be able to sleep at night 

 

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  On 12/19/2017 at 10:26 PM, WarmNose said:

"The storm hasn't even been sampled yet. It will be on land in 2 days then the models will have a better handle on it."

This is one of my all time favorite weenie lines :lol:

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Things usually get worse when we get better sampling.

GFS out to 204....looks like we probably get another cutting low, though eastern damming is stronger this run.  GFS is banging on northern stream energy in the Pac NW instead of bringing out a southern piece from the 4 corners

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  On 12/19/2017 at 10:13 PM, vwgrrc said:

How about TX for this time frame? Can anyone expand the map a little bit :)

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http://www.weather.gov/ http://www.pivotalweather.com/ https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/ https://weather.us/ http://wx.graphics/ https://www.wunderground.com/ http://www.intellicast.com/ These are my main sources. All free and all accessible. For Euro ensemble maps I use weather.us. Here is one wild member for a good part of Texas and pretty much everyone else in the Southeast.

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  On 12/19/2017 at 10:29 PM, griteater said:

Things usually get worse when we get better sampling.

GFS out to 204....looks like we probably get another cutting low, though eastern damming is stronger this run.  GFS is banging on northern stream energy in the Pac NW instead of bringing out a southern piece from the 4 corners

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Got a nice low in SE Canada, ebNAO and diving wave.  We still suck?

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  On 12/19/2017 at 10:37 PM, griteater said:

We get cold shot, cutter, cold shot on the GFS it looks like.  It could happen.  Interesting pattern though.  Model runs are hinting at prolonged SW flow overrunning solutions

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I can't tell if you're optimistic or doubtful here.  Your posting index is up recently, but the tone is overall defeated. 

Do I interpret that you're saying that a cutter is a possibility but you don't see it being likely? Where do you stand on late next week man? Spill it! :)  

 

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  On 12/19/2017 at 10:51 PM, SnowNiner said:

I can't tell if you're optimistic or doubtful here.  Your posting index is up recently, but the tone is overall defeated. 

Do I interpret that you're saying that a cutter is a possibility but you don't see it being likely? Where do you stand on late next week man? Spill it! :)  

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Like many I'm sure, I only become interested when legit cold air is a possibility.  We have a chance at some legit cold air in this setup...but it's always touch and go because legit cold air can lift out of the SE in a heartbeat.  Who knows on the storm waves out west.  No telling how/when/where they eject out, but you can tell on the models that we don't have a nice subtropical jet wave train pushing the waves steadily west to east into California.

The Euro Ensemble 5 day average here looks pretty good, with the way the below normal anomalies are spread out west to east.  We can score in this kind of pattern.

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  On 12/19/2017 at 7:17 PM, griteater said:

Looking at the 12z GFS Ens members for the time period after the arctic front passes, I see 8 with storms that cut, 7 with storms showing wintry precip in the SE, and 5 with no storm...so, not bad having the 7

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18z GFS Ens members - 8 cutters, 8 SE wintry storms, 4 others

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