FallsLake Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 11:32 PM, mackerel_sky said: That's a wicked pissah! Maybe it'll get cold in January! Expand Fab February will save us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary_Snow95 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 11:02 PM, SnowNiner said: Yeah the wicked awesome huge epo Alaska ridge goes poof.... Expand The GEFS is actually stronger with the Alaskan ridge vs the 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WidreMann Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 It does pop a little bit of a SE ridge, but those aren't always bad if we have -AO/NAO and +PNA plus cold air around. It can prevent suppression and aid in confluence over the NE to get us those nice CAD highs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 11:51 PM, Cary_Snow95 said: The GEFS is actually stronger with the Alaskan ridge vs the 12z. Expand Looks like the awesomist ridge ever seen on the West coast, is starting to slip a little to far off the coast and that's letting the SE ridge rear its ugly head! I suspect it will continue that trend sadly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary_Snow95 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 12:15 AM, mackerel_sky said: Looks like the awesomist ridge ever seen on the West coast, is starting to slip a little to far off the coast and that's letting the SE ridge rear its ugly head! I suspect it will continue that trend sadly! Expand It's way to far off to fret over a 300hr+ forecast. The signs are here for a major pattern change. So much doom and gloom nothing haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 12:11 AM, WidreMann said: It does pop a little bit of a SE ridge, but those aren't always bad if we have -AO/NAO and +PNA plus cold air around. It can prevent suppression and aid in confluence over the NE to get us those nice CAD highs. Expand Or we can just panic and whine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 12:39 AM, Queencitywx said: Or we can just panic and whine Expand I'm there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 12:11 AM, WidreMann said: It does pop a little bit of a SE ridge, but those aren't always bad if we have -AO/NAO and +PNA plus cold air around. It can prevent suppression and aid in confluence over the NE to get us those nice CAD highs. Expand Yeah, but in that instance on the 18z gefs if you take away the -nao, I bet that se ridge blows up. Ninja death grip on the greenland block! The line must be drawn heyah! No further! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 12:17 AM, Cary_Snow95 said: It's way to far off to fret over a 300hr+ forecast. The signs are here for a major pattern change. So much doom and gloom nothing haha Expand No doom and gloom needed IMO, going to be some fun and not so fun scenarios in the next few days. Although the SE Ridge is like herpes, it keeps coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Robert(wxsouth) made a post on FB about how it's going to be turning colder. Said its looking real interesting on paper. Didn't get into much detail. But showed a map of both EPS and GFS of 12z. Stated how rare it was both models showing a full northern hemisphere high pressure out west. Of course both show deep trough. GFS actually more east with the PV but stronger ridging over the Atlantic into Greenland as well. Really looking at EPS there is another weaker full northern hemisphere ridge too. From Atlantic Greenland Arctic to east of Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solak Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/29/2017 at 9:29 PM, Louise said: I remember the BIG one in 2000. Over a foot of beautiful snow!!! Would love another one of those!! Expand Welcome, Louise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Folks are upset about the 18z GFS (storm on the day 14/15 is a lake cutter), but even that run would still have a major arctic outbreak behind it. Don't despair, next model runs will show something different. As always, the models really don't have a clue in the LR with this type of pattern change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 1:19 AM, FLweather said: Robert(wxsouth) made a post on FB about how it's going to be turning colder. Said its looking real interesting on paper. Didn't get into much detail. But showed a map of both EPS and GFS of 12z. Stated how rare it was both models showing a full northern hemisphere high pressure out west. Of course both show deep trough. GFS actually more east with the PV but stronger ridging over the Atlantic into Greenland as well. Really looking at EPS there is another weaker full northern hemisphere ridge too. From Atlantic Greenland Arctic to east of Japan. Expand He's got his paysite back running. Gives very limited info for free now, but happy for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 1:59 AM, FallsLake said: Folks are upset about the 18z GFS (storm on the day 14/15 is a lake cutter), but even that run would still have a major arctic outbreak behind it. Don't despair, next model runs will show something different. As always, the models really don't have a clue in the LR with this type of pattern change. Expand The EPS day 9+ looks really good. A few events with similar pattern...hopefully it holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tramadoc Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Wait for tomorrow. GFS will probably show another solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCSNOW Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 News flash. Drudge story link, parts of Siberia are -60 and it's only November. Usually thats mid Jan, dead of winter record cold. Goes on that that air,which will modify, will be spilling into eastern us in 7 to 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 BOOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary_Snow95 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 The 00z GFS is crazy cold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnotherRDUGuy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 How much for RDU??? LULZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Euro agrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Indeed... 0z Euro holding onto snow idea, not as much tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 6:57 AM, JoshM said: Indeed... 0z Euro holding onto snow idea, not as much tho. Expand Thats a good cold look. Baby steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 7:00 AM, frazdaddy said: Thats a good cold look. Baby steps Expand The pattern is primed, the cold is in place. We'll worry about the details later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 7:01 AM, JoshM said: The pattern is primed, the cold is in place. We'll worry about the details later. Expand Yepp, good times ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 6z keeps the good vibes! I'm sure it will get the Rain_Cold seal of approval! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 After the cold front comes through 6-8 and the trough sits for a little bit(200+ hrs). With so much energy is the N/S and S/S hard for models to handle. ATM both of them. Especially depending how the S/S act will play a major role too. With so much energy available all cards are on the table. Ranging from clippers, Miller A, Miller A/B hybrids to Miller B. Wish y'all the best on a snowy winter. I just want some rain. Unlike last year's winter drought here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvegas-wx Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Still running my sprinkler every day, still watching grass come up, still mowing. Until we get sustainable cold 5 days out on the models this is all still fantasy range for me. This multiyear drought, not annual averages but the seasonal nature of it, has been a real pain in the arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 11:26 AM, mackerel_sky said: 6z keeps the good vibes! I'm sure it will get the Rain_Cold seal of approval! Expand Correct answer. This is just an astonishing image. Who knows if it will verify, but good grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 On 11/30/2017 at 1:14 PM, Cold Rain said: Correct answer. This is just an astonishing image. Who knows if it will verify, but good grief. Expand That's screen saver worthy right there! And lots of southern energy and northern stream energy, something big COULD be coming!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 EURO ensembles still look good in the long range all the way through mid December. Even has my precious ridging over Greenland and the Davis Straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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