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  On 11/29/2017 at 3:03 PM, SnowNiner said:

Good point.  My point was simply though that it's not really crazy cold.  It's getting us just marginally cold, in the ballpark of something to track.    

Yeah you're right! Oops, how many degrees difference is 6 C in Fahrenheit? 

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Keep in mind too that it’s an ensemble mean... at 240+ hours. It’s an average of both extremes on the warmer and colder side. Take a look at the Euro and GFS OP runs to get an idea of what type of potential is likely. We are looking at 10-20 degrees below normal if the EPS/Euro and GFS look verifies. 

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  On 11/29/2017 at 3:47 PM, griteater said:

One thing of note is that December is the second coldest month of the winter from a climo standpoint.  So, below normal in early-mid Dec should have a little more bite compared to similar anomalies in, say, mid-late Feb

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...and dare I say, favorable sun angles.

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  On 11/29/2017 at 3:17 PM, packbacker said:

This got tweeted out...it has precip/temps/snow for the Euro/EPS. 

https://weather.us/forecast/4487042-raleigh/ensemble/euro/precipitation

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Great, more info to look at!  When will I ever pull away from this crap!  That's nice, free info there.  Times have changed from looking at the MRF on Unisys

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  On 11/29/2017 at 3:03 PM, SnowNiner said:

Good point.  My point was simply though that it's not really crazy cold.  It's getting us just marginally cold, in the ballpark of something to track.    

Yeah you're right! Oops, how many degrees difference is 6 C in Fahrenheit? 

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It's also an ensemble mean so if it has the correct idea it will trend colder as we get closer.

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  On 11/29/2017 at 3:09 PM, FallsLake said:

~11        ...I think

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  On 11/29/2017 at 3:09 PM, packbacker said:

Little less then double for F, give or take.  The EPS is really cold.

 

 

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  On 11/29/2017 at 3:11 PM, packbacker said:

Allan's site has  2m temp dep in F.

 

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  On 11/29/2017 at 4:23 PM, franklin NCwx said:

It's also an ensemble mean so if it has the correct idea it will trend colder as we get closer.

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Thanks all for the clarifications.  It seems like we're in the game more than I initially perceived.  Let's see where she goes.  

^^Grit's stats for CLT look interesting too.  That's a nice jump that takes place in the amount of events after mid month.  

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  On 11/29/2017 at 7:38 PM, griteater said:

ha the Euro with the perfect little lucky storm scenario in this pattern...Mack gets warm bubbled tho

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I can't even get a fantasy snow! That's how pathetic mby is! :(

Pattern looks ok for a couple of below average days, no winter storms tho. By day 10, it'll probably be mid 60s in reality! I'm 56 degrees below avg with all my fantasy cold shots from this year already!

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  On 11/29/2017 at 7:56 PM, Cold Rain said:

They're finished for Pack and me!

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Your post and the fact that packbacker liked your post has me actually laughing out loud. 

The control run has a similar type storm a few days later...6-12 inches of white stuff in the mtns...lighter accums east of there to I-85 in NC.

 

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