lilj4425 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 It’s just too wet and warm for it to accumulate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 1 minute ago, lilj4425 said: It’s just too wet and warm for it to accumulate. It really is....everything just has to fall right when it's like that. Things like, snow hard to get temps to crash and get that first layer down, snow when the sun is down, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceagewhereartthou Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 When I went to bed with a temp of 44 and woke up to the same temp it was pretty obvious what was going to happen. If you're below 2000 feet, temp is always, ALWAYS the first priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNiner Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, griteater said: It really is....everything just has to fall right when it's like that. Things like, snow hard to get temps to crash and get that first layer down, snow when the sun is down, etc. For me it's all about surface temps. If you can't wet bulb down to 32 (preferably 30), it's just really hard to get good accumulating snow. My biggest take away this storm so far is I want my high pressure in the NE. Good strong CAD signal. Cold air in place first. Waiting for rain/rates to get snow is a losing battle 9 times out of 10. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmNose Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Grateful to get the snow and watch it fall for the 3rd time this month, but I’d love to lay down an inch. Never satisfied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmNose Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, griteater said: It really is....everything just has to fall right when it's like that. Things like, snow hard to get temps to crash and get that first layer down, snow when the sun is down, etc. Hey grit, how shallow is this warm nose here in the upstate? Is it just above the surface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, WarmNose said: Hey grit, how shallow is this warm nose here in the upstate? Is it just above the surface? Just pulled an HRRR sounding for 4pm right around Greenville and it shows a very shallow warm layer at the surface and a warm nose that's maybe +0.5 C deg at 800mb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just now, griteater said: Just pulled an HRRR sounding for 4pm right around Greenville and it shows a very shallow warm layer at the surface and a warm nose that's maybe +0.5 C deg at 800mb Hard to believe there is an 800mb warm nose with such a meager system. Usually only see that with amped up golf lows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, SnowNiner said: For me it's all about surface temps. If you can't wet bulb down to 32 (preferably 30), it's just really hard to get good accumulating snow. My biggest take away this storm so far is I want my high pressure in the NE. Good strong CAD signal. Cold air in place first. Waiting for rain/rates to get snow is a losing battle 9 times out of 10. It's tough getting that high in just the right spot. If it's up over the NE, it can want to slide out too quick too, as you know. Going back to that post I made the other day, it was in the mid-80's today in South Florida....so, I was OK with where the high was located - the bigger issue to me was the subtropical ridge was putting up a strong resistance to allowing the cold air to sink south. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceagewhereartthou Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Well heavier returns out of GA all moving south of me, end of precip now in NWGA. Man, pretty bad when you underperform on a dusting to an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Congrats to those who got some or will get some sledding in ! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 It’s OVER. Bring on Spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 I’m calling the High Table. This system did not pay its fealty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacoma Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Yep not excited about this storm today. We got maybe a half inch. Never did stick to the roads. I think I’m done. Couldn’t even get two inches let alone three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, lilj4425 said: Did anybody outside of the mountains get over an inch? Packgrad2005 and Tarheelprogrammer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just now, mackerel_sky said: Packgrad2005 and Tarheelprogrammer Lucky them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme NEGA Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Roses are wet and violets are wet. When does it stop raining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Extreme NEGA said: Roses are wet and violets are wet. When does it stop raining Enjoy your dry weekend, then we get 3 more days if rain starting Monday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Where’s the pivot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, lilj4425 said: Where’s the pivot? Cedric has your pivot! Where’s my deform band? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrel2 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 It's near impossible to predict how low level temps will play out with these systems. A few weeks ago it was raining here and 41 degree's with no wetbulbing left, and 2 hours later it was 34 degree's and ripping snow at 11am. Today we had extremely dry air work in in the 875-950mb range. 925mb wetbulbed down to -1C, seemingly leading a person to believe the low level above freezing layer could only be maybe 200 or 300 meters thick. Yet, today we wetbulbed down to 37-38 at the surface and then the temp never budged, while it snowed/rained moderately for hours on end. Part of it was definitely rates as I only wound up with 4/10th's of liquid for the storm, and all the shortrange models had me getting .6-.8inches of liquid. Either way, it's really disappointing because I was more worried about the 800mb warm nose for my area and that actually wound up being South of what models showed by a few miles and was not a problem for us today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnotherRDUGuy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/18/2020 at 5:06 PM, Iceagewhereartthou said: As expected, looks to be plenty of moisture, but cold is lacking or too slow for many. Going to be another "what could have been" for most of the upstate and NEGA. May see a sloppy inch or so but by the time cold gets here most of the precip gone east. Lot of people in NC may be happy come Thursday night though. On 2/18/2020 at 6:01 PM, YetAnotherRDUGuy said: No way man. We'll be in here whining about only getting 2''. Yea so. I think I've got 2'', but no more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 It's near impossible to predict how low level temps will play out with these systems. A few weeks ago it was raining here and 41 degree's with no wetbulbing left, and 2 hours later it was 34 degree's and ripping snow at 11am. Today we had extremely dry air work in in the 875-950mb range. 925mb wetbulbed down to -1C, seemingly leading a person to believe the low level above freezing layer could only be maybe 200 or 300 meters thick. Yet, today we wetbulbed down to 37-38 at the surface and then the temp never budged, while it snowed/rained moderately for hours on end. Part of it was definitely rates as I only wound up with 4/10th's of liquid for the storm, and all the shortrange models had me getting .6-.8inches of liquid. Either way, it's really disappointing because I was more worried about the 800mb warm nose for my area and that actually wound up being South of what models showed by a few miles and was not a problem for us today. Well said. My DP was in the lower 20 till around 11 when the precipitation started to come in. After that it shot up to over 35 and never went below 33.4. Also I obtained .23” so the rates were light. When they were heavier ( 2:45- 4:45) it snowed! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatherNature Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Don’t forget about the pivot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 PIVOT!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnotherRDUGuy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I'm still waiting for the pivot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Anyone who recieved more than a trace of snow has more snow than NYC this month. Anyone who received more than 0.5" of snow has more snow than Boston this month. Congrats!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just pivot already. I’m tired of waiting. CJ said it was gonna pivot and give the upstate like three feet of snow. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnotherRDUGuy Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, lilj4425 said: Just pivot already. I’m tired of waiting. CJ said it was gonna pivot and give the upstate like three feet of snow. I think it's starting to PIVOT over the ocean. Too far out to affect us. Dad'gummit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilj4425 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Tik tok tik tok...I am the clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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