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moneypitmike

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Good morning..NAM 3KM is a monster hit CT north. .Crusher

 06z Wednesday, Dec 28 fh = 6006z Wednesday, Dec 28 fh = 6600z Wednesday, Dec 28 fh = 7218z Tuesday, Dec 27 fh = 7812z Tuesday, Dec 27 fh = 8406z Tuesday, Dec 27 fh = 9000z Tuesday, Dec 27 fh = 9618z Monday, Dec 26 fh = 10212z Monday, Dec 26 fh = 10806z Monday, Dec 26 fh = 11400z Monday, Dec 26 fh = 12018z Sunday, Dec 25 fh = 12612z Sunday, Dec 25 fh = 13206z Sunday, Dec 25 fh = 13800z Sunday, Dec 25 fh = 14418z Saturday, Dec 24 fh = 15012z Saturday, Dec 24 fh = 15606z Saturday, Dec 24 fh = 16200z Saturday, Dec 24 fh = 16818z Friday, Dec 23 fh = 17412z Friday, Dec 23 fh = 18006z Friday, Dec 23 fh = 18600z Friday, Dec 23 fh = 19218z Thursday, Dec 22 fh = 19812z Thursday, Dec 22 fh = 20406z Thursday, Dec 22 fh = 21000z Thursday, Dec 22 fh = 21618z Wednesday, Dec 21 fh = 22212z Wednesday, Dec 21 fh = 22806z Wednesday, Dec 21 
Forecast Hour:60
 
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37 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Good morning..NAM 3KM is a monster hit CT north. .Crusher

 06z Wednesday, Dec 28 fh = 6006z Wednesday, Dec 28 fh = 6600z Wednesday, Dec 28 fh = 7218z Tuesday, Dec 27 fh = 7812z Tuesday, Dec 27 fh = 8406z Tuesday, Dec 27 fh = 9000z Tuesday, Dec 27 fh = 9618z Monday, Dec 26 fh = 10212z Monday, Dec 26 fh = 10806z Monday, Dec 26 fh = 11400z Monday, Dec 26 fh = 12018z Sunday, Dec 25 fh = 12612z Sunday, Dec 25 fh = 13206z Sunday, Dec 25 fh = 13800z Sunday, Dec 25 fh = 14418z Saturday, Dec 24 fh = 15012z Saturday, Dec 24 fh = 15606z Saturday, Dec 24 fh = 16200z Saturday, Dec 24 fh = 16818z Friday, Dec 23 fh = 17412z Friday, Dec 23 fh = 18006z Friday, Dec 23 fh = 18600z Friday, Dec 23 fh = 19218z Thursday, Dec 22 fh = 19812z Thursday, Dec 22 fh = 20406z Thursday, Dec 22 fh = 21000z Thursday, Dec 22 fh = 21618z Wednesday, Dec 21 fh = 22212z Wednesday, Dec 21 fh = 22806z Wednesday, Dec 21 
Forecast Hour:60
 

that will NOT happen down here...you may get a quick few inches and brief low visibility and a good scalping(best case scenario) but all the deck destroying will be 10-20 mi n/w of me....the models really are in excellent agreement about this

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Not one member of the GEPS or GEFS is as far west as the NAM. The GFS has been steadfast on a track from CC to east of portland. I don't think that's something we should ignore. 

The NAM is amp happy -- yet again. I think a 50/50 NAM/GFS blend is in order (for track and intensity). Have to weigh the GFS heavily for UL synoptic development, but need the resolution of the NAM to better evaluate mesoscale convective processes.

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3 minutes ago, jbenedet said:

Not one member of the GEPS or GEFS is as far west as the NAM. The GFS has been steadfast on a track from CC to east or portland. I don't think that's something we should NOT ignore. 

The NAM is amp happy -- yet again. I think a 50/50 NAM/GFS blend is in order (for track and intensity). Have to weigh the GFS heavily for UL synoptic development, but need the resolution of the NAM to better evaluate mesoscale convective processes.

That 6z NAM run really floods Rockingham County in the low levels. Given the dynamics I think its a bit warm, but well see how things look at 12z

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26 minutes ago, wx2fish said:

 

That 6z NAM run really floods Rockingham County in the low levels. Given the dynamics I think its a bit warm, but well see how things look at 12z

With that track, that amount of low level warmth is certainly conceivable. But as I stated before, the 6z NAM's track contains a bunch of caveats. The NAM has scored a bunch of points so far this season during meso low situations. Recency bias has a lot more people giving the NAM more credence than it should in this situation. The NAM is notorious for over-amping nor'easters and is commonly on the far west side of guidance for this reason.

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8 minutes ago, jbenedet said:

With that track, that amount of low level warmth is certainly conceivable. But as I stated before, the 6z NAM's track contains a bunch of caveats. The NAM has scored a bunch of points so far this season during meso low situations. Recency bias has a lot more people giving the NAM more credence than it should in this situation. The NAM is notorious for over-amping nor'easters and is commonly on the far west side of guidance for this reason.

Certainty a possibility. Such a razor edge in SE NH depending on that track

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2 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

Actually, I think Iceburg is correct on what the other guidance shows (NW CT notwithstanding).  But, perhaps the 3k will score a coup and can be promoted from 'experimental' status.

Iceburg is totally correct..there were a few runs that looked good but there has been a clear shift away from that for two cycles now

Kevin has a shot at a little something with his elevation but generally speaking the rest of us south of the pike will be more concerned with the black ice on the roads and sidewalks come Friday morning

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8 minutes ago, codfishsnowman said:

Iceburg is totally correct..there were a few runs that looked good but there has been a clear shift away from that for two cycles now

Kevin has a shot at a little something with his elevation but generally speaking the rest of us south of the pike will be more concerned with the black ice on the roads and sidewalks come Friday morning

The RGEM running the low from the North Shore of LI  to New London to  Foxborough was concerning as it looks to bring rain all the way to 290 or 190 in Mass for a time.  We'll see if it still does that with the 12z run. 

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1 hour ago, wx2fish said:

Really amped up. Although by 48hr its not really far off the euro position. Also the 6z rgem is within its later range, BOS-PWM type track too.

Definitely a set of ensemble members that do show the potential back here in VT to get clobbered.... also a set of ensemble members that show 3-6" lol.

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1 hour ago, jbenedet said:

Not one member of the GEPS or GEFS is as far west as the NAM. The GFS has been steadfast on a track from CC to east of portland. I don't think that's something we should ignore. 

The NAM is amp happy -- yet again. I think a 50/50 NAM/GFS blend is in order (for track and intensity). Have to weigh the GFS heavily for UL synoptic development, but need the resolution of the NAM to better evaluate mesoscale convective processes.

Some on here have been talking about the differences between the hydrostatic and non-hydrostatic models... the GFS has been on the eastern edge of guidance since the get-go.  Even the GGEM bombed out earlier and further west than its 12z run. 

I have no idea which one is right, but the NAM has been jumping around a bit.  Its really not far from the EURO solution though.

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9 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

The RGEM running the low from the North Shore of LI  to New London to  Foxborough was concerning as it looks to bring rain all the way to 290 or 190 in Mass for a time.  We'll see if it still does that with the 12z run. 

sucks because thats typically a good track back here...but its too warm at the start, fighting it off like a nasty clump of gnats in July. And by the time it wraps up, the cbb collapses to the east. 

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