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Mid-Long Range Discussion 2016-2017


Cary_Snow95

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19 minutes ago, packbacker said:

Models are kind of block happy today...the 18z GFS is always fun run though.

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Overdone or not, this run doesn't surprise me given recent trends...just waiting for the euro ensemble to take note...any day now.

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Weeklies very cold for New Years eve. Think of the 18z GFS 500mb map on steroids. Huge ridge west deep trough in east centered over KY. Extreme anomalous dipole over the US. seeing it this far out is quite impressive


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5 minutes ago, Jon said:

Weeklies very cold for New Years eve. Think of the 18z GFS 500mb map on steroids. Huge ridge west deep trough in east centered over KY. Extreme anomalous dipole over the US. seeing it this far out is quite impressive


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Could you post them?

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19 minutes ago, TiltedStorm said:

Cold air not in place, or we will have back-to-back winter storms...a lot could change though. I think that is called bathtub slosh...don't google it.

 

Yeah you shouldn't be looking for actual snow threats just a general consensus of energy moving around inside a favorable pattern

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Just now, TiltedStorm said:

Should I break down and subscribe to eurowx? I was waiting until we had a legit threat. Been reading and seems like the euro is golden tonight.

I assume the subscription is monthly? If so now is as good as any. or you could wait out these next few warm days so you have it for all of January 

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Could you post them?


Weeklies is something I just don't post, but you can probably find them on twitter. Note I'm talking about the "dailies" if you will from the monthly run, so a single time just like normal models are run. The weeklies include Dec 26-Jan 2 so with the ridge after Christmas the 500mb is underwhelming. I'll PM you the New Year's Eve frame I'm talking about. If anyone else wants it, PM/DM me.
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3 hours ago, Jon said:

Overdone or not, this run doesn't surprise me given recent trends...just waiting for the euro ensemble to take note...any day now.

Interesting seeing all 3 globals showing stout -NAO day 10.  I guess 4 globals if you count para GFS.  Probably be gone at 0z but they must see something.  

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1 hour ago, packbacker said:

This is kind of what I think we get in Jan...going to be a battle with that ridge but in the game at least. 

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This one is basically identical to what we say with last weeks arctic front. Virtually the whole country below normal with the Southeast up the immediate seaboard above. It is going to be a hard winter to endure if this ends up being the general pattern all winter.  

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25 minutes ago, packbacker said:

Interesting seeing all 3 globals showing stout -NAO day 10.  I guess 4 globals if you count para GFS.  Probably be gone at 0z but they must see something.  

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3 minutes ago, Iceagewhereartthou said:

This one is basically identical to what we say with last weeks arctic front. Virtually the whole country below normal with the Southeast up the immediate seaboard above. It is going to be a hard winter to endure if this ends up being the general pattern all winter.  

These look nothing like last outbreak

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10 minutes ago, Iceagewhereartthou said:

This one is basically identical to what we say with last weeks arctic front. Virtually the whole country below normal with the Southeast up the immediate seaboard above. It is going to be a hard winter to endure if this ends up being the general pattern all winter.  

Joe D from WB had a post today and in it he listed the wQBO and w-LN winters....for Jan that composite shows an atlantic ridge, when rolled into Feb the cold does shift east.  I do think we battle it, that's life in the SE.   Oh-V up to interior NE they will love it.  

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3 minutes ago, packbacker said:

Joe D from WB had a post today and in it he listed the wQBO and w-LN winters....for Jan that composite shows an atlantic ridge, when rolled into Feb the cold does shift east.  I do think we battle it, that's life in the SE.   Oh-V up to interior NE they will love it. 

Hypothetically, let's say the D10 pattern being shown materializes. We have to at least have a better chance to score than what we've had so far, right? 

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This one is basically identical to what we say with last weeks arctic front. Virtually the whole country below normal with the Southeast up the immediate seaboard above. It is going to be a hard winter to endure if this ends up being the general pattern all winter.  


It's what you have to fight with La Ninas, unfortunately
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4 minutes ago, Jonathan said:

Hypothetically, let's say the D10 pattern being shown materializes. We have to at least have a better chance to score than what we've had so far, right? 

It's not exactly having 'all the players on the field' but 'the field' would indeed be there.

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Joe D from WB had a post today and in it he listed the wQBO and w-LN winters....for Jan that composite shows an atlantic ridge, when rolled into Feb the cold does shift east.  I do think we battle it, that's life in the SE.   Oh-V up to interior NE they will love it.  


That's what I saw in doing my outlook too. I had Jan above normal and Feb near normal. Time will tell
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