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Weeklies very cold for New Years eve. Think of the 18z GFS 500mb map on steroids. Huge ridge west deep trough in east centered over KY. Extreme anomalous dipole over the US. seeing it this far out is quite impressive


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  On 12/23/2016 at 12:22 AM, Jon said:

Weeklies very cold for New Years eve. Think of the 18z GFS 500mb map on steroids. Huge ridge west deep trough in east centered over KY. Extreme anomalous dipole over the US. seeing it this far out is quite impressive


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Could you post them?

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  On 12/23/2016 at 12:33 AM, TiltedStorm said:

Cold air not in place, or we will have back-to-back winter storms...a lot could change though. I think that is called bathtub slosh...don't google it.

 

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Yeah you shouldn't be looking for actual snow threats just a general consensus of energy moving around inside a favorable pattern

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  On 12/23/2016 at 12:53 AM, TiltedStorm said:

Should I break down and subscribe to eurowx? I was waiting until we had a legit threat. Been reading and seems like the euro is golden tonight.

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I assume the subscription is monthly? If so now is as good as any. or you could wait out these next few warm days so you have it for all of January 

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  On 12/23/2016 at 12:27 AM, Cary_Snow95 said:
Could you post them?


Weeklies is something I just don't post, but you can probably find them on twitter. Note I'm talking about the "dailies" if you will from the monthly run, so a single time just like normal models are run. The weeklies include Dec 26-Jan 2 so with the ridge after Christmas the 500mb is underwhelming. I'll PM you the New Year's Eve frame I'm talking about. If anyone else wants it, PM/DM me.
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  On 12/22/2016 at 11:00 PM, Jon said:

Overdone or not, this run doesn't surprise me given recent trends...just waiting for the euro ensemble to take note...any day now.

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Interesting seeing all 3 globals showing stout -NAO day 10.  I guess 4 globals if you count para GFS.  Probably be gone at 0z but they must see something.  

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  On 12/23/2016 at 1:36 AM, packbacker said:

This is kind of what I think we get in Jan...going to be a battle with that ridge but in the game at least. 

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This one is basically identical to what we say with last weeks arctic front. Virtually the whole country below normal with the Southeast up the immediate seaboard above. It is going to be a hard winter to endure if this ends up being the general pattern all winter.  

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  On 12/23/2016 at 2:21 AM, packbacker said:

Interesting seeing all 3 globals showing stout -NAO day 10.  I guess 4 globals if you count para GFS.  Probably be gone at 0z but they must see something.  

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  On 12/23/2016 at 2:43 AM, Iceagewhereartthou said:

This one is basically identical to what we say with last weeks arctic front. Virtually the whole country below normal with the Southeast up the immediate seaboard above. It is going to be a hard winter to endure if this ends up being the general pattern all winter.  

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These look nothing like last outbreak

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  On 12/23/2016 at 2:43 AM, Iceagewhereartthou said:

This one is basically identical to what we say with last weeks arctic front. Virtually the whole country below normal with the Southeast up the immediate seaboard above. It is going to be a hard winter to endure if this ends up being the general pattern all winter.  

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Joe D from WB had a post today and in it he listed the wQBO and w-LN winters....for Jan that composite shows an atlantic ridge, when rolled into Feb the cold does shift east.  I do think we battle it, that's life in the SE.   Oh-V up to interior NE they will love it.  

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  On 12/23/2016 at 2:57 AM, packbacker said:

Joe D from WB had a post today and in it he listed the wQBO and w-LN winters....for Jan that composite shows an atlantic ridge, when rolled into Feb the cold does shift east.  I do think we battle it, that's life in the SE.   Oh-V up to interior NE they will love it. 

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Hypothetically, let's say the D10 pattern being shown materializes. We have to at least have a better chance to score than what we've had so far, right? 

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  On 12/23/2016 at 2:43 AM, Iceagewhereartthou said:
This one is basically identical to what we say with last weeks arctic front. Virtually the whole country below normal with the Southeast up the immediate seaboard above. It is going to be a hard winter to endure if this ends up being the general pattern all winter.  


It's what you have to fight with La Ninas, unfortunately
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  On 12/23/2016 at 2:57 AM, packbacker said:
Joe D from WB had a post today and in it he listed the wQBO and w-LN winters....for Jan that composite shows an atlantic ridge, when rolled into Feb the cold does shift east.  I do think we battle it, that's life in the SE.   Oh-V up to interior NE they will love it.  


That's what I saw in doing my outlook too. I had Jan above normal and Feb near normal. Time will tell
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