Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Be like what? Calling it what it is? But u didn't really. U made one maybe 2 posts here since Tuesday sating something like brief snow to plain rain, next. I'm still below freezing and still have fzra attm. Nobody said major ice storm, I think most of us agreed there was icing potential and not just a black and white snow to rain situation. I wish you would discuss more and not just pop in once in a while to boast. You used to have decent input leading up to storms and not the one-line posts then the pat yourself on the shoulder stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Quite a few accidents out there in Mont County: http://tinyurl.com/zx3e4lb Traffic Incidents Incident No. Incident Type Incident Sub Type Incident Location Municipality Dispatch Time P16658682 VEHICLE ACCIDENT RT309 OVERPASS & PAPER MILL RD SPRINGFIELD 2016-12-17 09:54:57 P16658681 ROAD OBSTRUCTION QUARRY RD & UPPER MAINLAND RD LOWER SALFORD 2016-12-17 09:55:25 P16658679 VEHICLE ACCIDENT FORD DR & GRANT AVE HATFIELD TOWNSHIP 2016-12-17 09:54:52 P16658678 HAZARDOUS ROAD CONDITIONS RIGHTERS MILL RD & FORD LOWER MERION 2016-12-17 09:54:34 P16658671 VEHICLE ACCIDENT W LANCASTER AVE & ARDMORE AVE LOWER MERION 2016-12-17 09:43:11 P16658666 VEHICLE ACCIDENT PENNSYLVANIA TPKE & ALLENDALE RD ACCESS GATE UPPER MERION 2016-12-17 09:37:27 P16658663 HAZARDOUS ROAD CONDITIONS N ROBERTS RD & RR OVERPASS LOWER MERION 2016-12-17 09:35:12 P16658657 VEHICLE ACCIDENT BRYN TYDDYN DR & ALOHA LN LOWER MERION 2016-12-17 09:36:48 P16658653 VEHICLE ACCIDENT BARREN HILL RD & SCARLET OAK DR WHITEMARSH 2016-12-17 09:27:46 P16658649 VEHICLE ACCIDENT KAUFFMAN RD & WENDY DR LOWER POTTSGROVE 2016-12-17 09:23:34 P16658636 DISABLED VEHICLE RT309 EXPY & SUMMIT AVE OVERPASS UPPER DUBLIN 2016-12-17 09:15:25 P16658634 ROAD OBSTRUCTION BALLIGOMINGO RD & DEHAVEN ST UPPER MERION 2016-12-17 09:15:03 P16658630 VEHICLE ACCIDENT SCHOOLHOUSE RD & CRESCENT LN FRANCONIA 2016-12-17 09:13:02 P16658619 VEHICLE ACCIDENT W BEIDLER RD & SHARON CT UPPER MERION 2016-12-17 09:10:26 P16658618 VEHICLE ACCIDENT W BEIDLER RD & SHARON CT UPPER MERION 2016-12-17 09:10:14 P16658616 VEHICLE ACCIDENT LIMEKILN PIKE & SILVER OAK PL HORSHAM 2016-12-17 09:07:47 P16658598 VEHICLE ACCIDENT SUMNEYTOWN PIKE & RIDGE RD UPPER SALFORD 2016-12-17 09:12:01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Still ZR here in East Nantmeal temp up to 31.8 couple pix attached from webcams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 30.4 the back edge is passing through already except for afternoon drizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Back edge of precipitation into Western Montco and NW Bucks. Still below freezing many areas N and W of PHL. The race is on to see if round 1 this am can truly transition over to plain rain. As always, these systems usually take longer to scour out the low level cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 If it had been all snow in my area I doubt it would have exceeded 3-3.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Just reached Eastern Montco...main roads not bad, back roads a mess. Temp 30 in Ambler and freezing drizzle attm. Considerably more icing and accidents out this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Back edge of precipitation into Western Montco and NW Bucks. Still below freezing many areas N and W of PHL. The race is on to see if round 1 this am can truly transition over to plain rain. As always, these systems usually take longer to scour out the low level cold. Probably won't. I'm at 31.1F and the back edge of precip for Rd 1 is on my door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Probably won't. I'm at 31.1F and the back edge of precip for Rd 1 is on my door.You are correct. Precip cut off here in Blue Bell and 31F. Classic situation....very 1994- esque quite honestly. Hopefully we don't see these scenarios as we head deeper into winter. Kind of early in the season for this stuff. That record 500mb height anomaly definitely aided this scenario. Again, that weak slp off NJ was also a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Up to 33F here now. Rain up to 0.35". Back edge looks to be back by Norristown/King of Prussia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 32.2F ... finally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Yep, done. 31.6F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Made a post in the deleted obs thread earlier saying that we had about 1/2" of snow/sleet, then light freezing rain by about 6:30 with 28F temp. I did manage to make a snow pile however, small (3' high) but with a lot of mass. We'll see how long it can last. The freezing rain is rough on the bamboo. Just got to 33F here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Voyager said: We were 100% sleet by 6:30am after about an inch of pure snow. Still mostly to all sleet (haven't been outside in awhile). I just hope it warms up enough to melt the snow off my trailer or I'll be blowing chunks going down the freeway tomorrow. Not safe I know, but neither is climbing up on a 13 foot high trailer, unrestrained, with a shovel... www.amazon.com/Classic-White-Vomit-Barf-Bags (not an actual link). Couldn't resist.... Sounds like it should warm up enough overnight and tomorrow morning so that it might not be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, KamuSnow said: Made a post in the deleted obs thread earlier saying that we had about 1/2" of snow/sleet, then light freezing rain by about 6:30 with 28F temp. I did manage to make a snow pile however, small (3' high) but with a lot of mass. We'll see how long it can last. The freezing rain is rough on the bamboo. Just got to 33F here. If we had a massive freeze tonight (single digits) that would be a friggin brick come Sunday morning and wouldn't melt till June... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 10 minutes ago, KamuSnow said: Made a post in the deleted obs thread earlier saying that we had about 1/2" of snow/sleet, then light freezing rain by about 6:30 with 28F temp. I did manage to make a snow pile however, small (3' high) but with a lot of mass. We'll see how long it can last. The freezing rain is rough on the bamboo. Just got to 33F here. Good mound! You might still have enough left even with rain forecast for tomorrow, for it to become a glacier after fropa tomorrow night and cold Monday/Monday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Birds~69 said: If we had a massive freeze tonight (single digits) that would be a friggin brick come Sunday morning and wouldn't melt till June... 3 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said: Good mound! You might still have enough left even with rain forecast for tomorrow, for it to become a glacier after fropa tomorrow night and cold Monday/Monday night. Thanks! And agreed. My goal is to have something left by Christmas. Is it cheating if I cover it with a tarp for a day or two later next week in case of a warm rain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said: Good mound! You might still have enough left even with rain forecast for tomorrow, for it to become a glacier after fropa tomorrow night and cold Monday/Monday night. Yeah, the thing is it's not snow. It's like a big mound of ice...super dense. When it freezes, it's a rock. It's a good foundation to place future snow events on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Kamu needs a snow maker like midlo, I could see it getting as high as the roof on that barn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Birds~69 said: Yeah, the thing is it's not snow. It's like a big mound of ice...super dense. When it freezes, it's a rock. It's a good foundation to place future snow events on. Yeah, I know, it's like a Zamboni pile. It looks like snow though. Hopefully it get's added to multiple times this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamuSnow Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, RedSky said: Kamu needs a snow maker like midlo, I could see it getting as high as the roof on that barn. Lol, I've actually researched them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, Birds~69 said: Yeah, the thing is it's not snow. It's like a big mound of ice...super dense. When it freezes, it's a rock. It's a good foundation to place future snow events on. Definitely. Even if it gets covered with 1/2" of snow later, no one would know the difference (unless someone or something tries to leap into it)! Maybe get a chainsaw on it and make an ice sculpture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, KamuSnow said: Lol, I've actually researched them. I remember that. It took him a long time to get the front lawn covered but it eventually got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said: Feel kinda bad for people with grounded flights at PHL International after a few folks here guaranteed no ice and no delays. Smh. ???? why does it matter what people told them? They still would need to be at the airport for their flight. It's not like this is the apocalypse BTW up to 32.9 here. Was below freezing for several hours during moderate fzra, and, as I said, no real bad icing over 4 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 4 hours ago, Ralph Wiggum said: In your area, yes. N and W of PHL icing situation most of the morning. I dont think anyone expected this to be a huge snowmaker and everyone pretty much expected a changeover. The icing wasnt really well-modeled until the short range guidance came into play tho. The icing was poorly modeled by short range guidance in the end as the models printed out 0.2-0.3. We probably didn't even see 0.1" of accretion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBasile Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Still a slushy, icy, mess out there. Light rain, 32.3F, 0.63" of precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Roads still slushy and slippery in spots not much melting at all Temp is holding at 32.6 with rooftop vantage vue at 31.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penndotguy Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, ChescoPaWxman said: Roads still slushy and slippery in spots not much melting at all Temp is holding at 32.6 with rooftop vantage vue at 31.9 yeah my tree branches are still coated quite a bit and wires still holding ice and not melting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 After climbing above freezing, temps really haven't gone anywhere. I've been sitting at 33.3F for the past hour or so. Nice slush piles everyone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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