Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 25 fzra here in Warminster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 I apologize this program I am using is glitchy and it keeps deleting my posts and threads on it's own. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 We are holding in the mid 20s here and despite the heavier radar echoes, the precip is light fzra to sometimes maybe you can call it moderate. Light glazing on all surfaces already. Ideal fzra conditions attm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Now moderate ZR (0.01" already so far) and the snow is getting soaked. Temp up to 29F and rising. Edit now up to 0.02" ZR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 As I mentioned like on Tuesday these events almost always underperform. Changed over after most likely under an inch of snow...Wasn't worth a measurement to me before I had to leave. Now moderate technically freezing rain. Though temp is 29 so it really is running off and ponding quicker than it is freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 12:43 PM, The Iceman said: As I mentioned like on Tuesday these events almost always underperform. Changed over after most likely under an inch of snow...Wasn't worth a measurement to me before I had to leave. Now moderate technically freezing rain. Though temp is 29 so it really is running off and ponding quicker than it is freezing. In your area, yes. N and W of PHL icing situation most of the morning. I dont think anyone expected this to be a huge snowmaker and everyone pretty much expected a changeover. The icing wasnt really well-modeled until the short range guidance came into play tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkd Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 12:43 PM, The Iceman said: As I mentioned like on Tuesday these events almost always underperform. Changed over after most likely under an inch of snow...Wasn't worth a measurement to me before I had to leave. Now moderate technically freezing rain. Though temp is 29 so it really is running off and ponding quicker than it is freezing. Expand You going to be like this all winter? Had about 1" when I got up to sleet at 7. Still sleet in with occasional flakes. Looks nice out. 24F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 All freezing rain here now and everything glazing over big time! I cleared the snow off the cars and shoveled driveway when it first flipped to sleet, but by the time I was done freezing rain had started and the windshields of my cars and everything else were completely glazed over in ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Up to 31F now w/0.1" rain. Some of the shrubs have an ice coating but the rain is just heavy enough to run off the surfaces and pond on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 12:48 PM, Ralph Wiggum said: In your area, yes. N and W of PHL icing situation most of the morning. I dont think anyone expected this to be a huge snowmaker and everyone pretty much expected a changeover. The icing wasnt really well-modeled until the short range guidance came into play tho. Expand How about up here in the high county NWS me and everybody's grandmother expected 2-3" minimum and ground truth <1" imby. This one was ugly hope for a better January all I can say. Central PA radar trend says rain or freezing rain that is isn't really freezing will be over around noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Light to moderate snow mixed w/sleet falling, estimated accumulation 3.5"-4.0", temp 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 28.6 with ZR. Looked out around 4am and light snow falling. Heard pingers around 6am. I'm sure we've had icing events in Dec before, but I can't recall any. Seems these happen more often in Jan & Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 We were 100% sleet by 6:30am after about an inch of pure snow. Still mostly to all sleet (haven't been outside in awhile). I just hope it warms up enough to melt the snow off my trailer or I'll be blowing chunks going down the freeway tomorrow. Not safe I know, but neither is climbing up on a 13 foot high trailer, unrestrained, with a shovel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 28F with ZR radar returns look heavy but they lie it continues to be light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Did the whole obs thread get deleted? Anyway, snow started around 3 am here, had 1/2" by 4:30 am, then 1.5" by 6:30 am and 2.0" by 7:30 am, when sleet started mixing in. Had a mix for awhile with a few bursts of heavy snow, then as of 8:30, we're now all freezing rain, at 27F, still. 2.25" total snow/sleet, as I think we're done with snow/sleet. The 32F line appears to be from about Mount Holly across to about Sandy Hook, so it's got a ways to go to get up here. Could get really ugly here if we get a couple of hours of ZR with temps well below 32F. http://www.njweather.org/maps/nj-statewide-air-temperatures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMG11 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 All flights grounded at PHL due to freezing rain. Sitting in a boeing as I type. Depression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RU848789 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 1:11 PM, Rtd208 said: Light to moderate snow mixed w/sleet falling, estimated accumulation 3.5"-4.0", temp 27 Expand Ron - wow, that would be a huge difference over about 8 miles, as we only have 2.25" snow/sleet in Metuchen. All ZR here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penndotguy Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 holding steady @ 29 with some serious icing going on, freezing rain since about 6:30 out here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 1:39 PM, RU848789 said: Ron - wow, that would be a huge difference over about 8 miles, as we only have 2.25" snow/sleet in Metuchen. All ZR here now. Expand Snow has changed to freezing rain here now as well, temp 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Just hit 32F with moderate rain. Some is still freezing on the colder surfaces but have snow melting off the roof. Almost up to 1/4" rain so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief83 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 Worcester, PA. 31 FZ rain. Got a trace to 1/4" of snow. Temp been going up steadily from 24 at 6 AM to 31 at 9:10. Should be a non event soon. There have been numerous car accidents - several on the turnpike. Would have been much worse had it been a work day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Should transition over to plain rain here by 10AM latest. Couldn't happen soon enough as trees and wires have just enough ice accretion they are just beginning to sag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 Feel kinda bad for people with grounded flights at PHL International after a few folks here guaranteed no ice and no delays. Smh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 30.4F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 30.5F....has that glazed look outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birds~69 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 2:14 PM, Ralph Wiggum said: Should transition over to plain rain here by 10AM latest. Couldn't happen soon enough as trees and wires have just enough ice accretion they are just beginning to sag. Expand Going to be a close call. I jumped a couple degrees an hour or two ago but now steady at 30.5F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 17, 2016 Author Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 2:28 PM, Birds~69 said: Going to be a close call. I jumped a couple degrees an hour or two ago but now steady at 30.5F.I'm in Trevose on business call and we just hit 31.7F.....any minute here now. Not sure what's happening just N and W of here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 12:48 PM, Ralph Wiggum said: In your area, yes. N and W of PHL icing situation most of the morning. I dont think anyone expected this to be a huge snowmaker and everyone pretty much expected a changeover. The icing wasnt really well-modeled until the short range guidance came into play tho. Expand I drove up to Doylestown early this morning. Big underperformer up there as well. People were saying 2-4 up there, and it was not even close. Changed over way sooner than expected like these events usually do. I never said anyone was expecting it not to change over just that these events almost always change over much sooner than expected...just like what happened. Plus no one played up the ice because it isn't significant. Slight branch bending, no damage at all. Far NW maybe a slightly different story. For a vast majority of the area though this was an underperformer like these change over events usually do. On 12/17/2016 at 12:55 PM, wkd said: You going to be like this all winter? Had about 1" when I got up to sleet at 7. Still sleet in with occasional flakes. Looks nice out. 24F. Expand Be like what? Calling it what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTA66 Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 31.3F. It's a race between the back edge of the steady precip and freezing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman Posted December 17, 2016 Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/17/2016 at 2:19 PM, Ralph Wiggum said: Feel kinda bad for people with grounded flights at PHL International after a few folks here guaranteed no ice and no delays. Smh. Expand I don't think anyone guaranteed anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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