dryslot Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Lava Rock said: That would be oK with me. How much liquid on Sunday? RGEM does not get out that far yet, It certainly won't be enough to hurt things up north Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, dryslot said: We wedge, Quite sure we mix out during the day on Sunday, But it appears to be short lived lol from Rangeley to Sherbrooke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Btw Boston's low of 4F was the coldest December temp since 1989. ORH's low of -1 was tied 2004 and 1993 as coldest since 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, dendrite said: lol from Rangeley to Sherbrooke. Don't see that often......lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said: Seems like an 8-10 hour period mostly Sunday morning of 40's.. perhaps low 50's in spots. Front crashes thru midday so it's not prolonged , but it may be enough to wipe out most of it. It keeps Greenfield area near 32 the entire time so Chris keeps his pack and MPM should keep some You'd probably have snow left if the GFS that was run from your basement verified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, dendrite said: lol from Rangeley to Sherbrooke. Looks like just enough yellowish tint to be 50 at HIE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, dendrite said: lol from Rangeley to Sherbrooke. Crazy as here is 6-hours earlier. The RGEM has MVL going from 24F to 44F in that 6 hour time frame. Probably see that move east as the front moves east and it all starts mixing out. Be interesting to see if that verifies here... 24F at 1am and 44F at 7am before probably back to 24F at 1pm, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 19 minutes ago, dryslot said: We wedge, Quite sure we mix out during the day on Sunday, But it appears to be short lived El Torcho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1.5 at noon... pretty brisk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 12 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Btw Boston's low of 4F was the coldest December temp since 1989. ORH's low of -1 was tied 2004 and 1993 as coldest since 1989. That's an impressive stat right there. I made it down to 1° but have had colder readings than that since 1989. My 31 year record is just dominated by readings in 1989. 19 days have a record low set in 1989. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, MetHerb said: That's an impressive stat right there. I made it down to 1° but have had colder readings than that since 1989. My 31 year record is just dominated by readings in 1989. 19 days have a record low set in 1989. Yeah for rad spots it's a little different. 2005 in December had some great radiational cooling nights following the 12/9 storm but they were not as prolific in places like ORH or BOS. There's prob other sneaky dates in there that don't show up at all at a station like ORH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 24 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Crazy as here is 6-hours earlier. The RGEM has MVL going from 24F to 44F in that 6 hour time frame. Probably see that move east as the front moves east and it all starts mixing out. Be interesting to see if that verifies here... 24F at 1am and 44F at 7am before probably back to 24F at 1pm, lol. yeah it will! Will and I were just discussing that last hour about how nooormally you don't see 20-30 F temp jumps in 6 hours... There's a hand wringing grind there where the models bust too soon... and the temp manages to 36 for a couple of hours, too... it's just a mess than it flips...more like from 33 to 43... going to be interesting case study in the science of low level cold vs warm intrusion off the deck. this is also a classic set up in my mind to get a 3,000 foot els smoking over the top of strand valley chill, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariof Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 28 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: yeah it will! Will and I were just discussing that last hour about how nooormally you don't see 20-30 F temp jumps in 6 hours... There's a hand wringing grind there where the models bust too soon... and the temp manages to 36 for a couple of hours, too... it's just a mess than it flips...more like from 33 to 43... going to be interesting case study in the science of low level cold vs warm intrusion off the deck. this is also a classic set up in my mind to get a 3,000 foot els smoking over the top of strand valley chill, too. I can't think of the dates, but I seem to remember an event with a setup like this where Maine was modeled to mix out and never did: 28 at AUG and 45 at LEB and 55 at BOS at some point. Not sure if the dynamics align for this … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, ariof said: I can't think of the dates, but I seem to remember an event with a setup like this where Maine was modeled to mix out and never did: 28 at AUG and 45 at LEB and 55 at BOS at some point. Not sure if the dynamics align for this … it's a great approach actually ... using some experiential reference to grapple (no pun intended) with the idiosyncrasy of this baby. i have been mulling over a few of those fail-to-mix-out blunders myself, but .. i don't know what the commonality is. perhaps it's just the weight of the cold that's in place (like discussed earlier) being outpaced by the total speed aloft... i think viscosity in the atmosphere still has some sort of physical limiation on how fast it can be removed and exceeding that timing things could get dicey even in a situation with less actual blocking. weird - kind of like despite the present cold, warmth is the superior athlete heading through the weekend ...but it over commits on the play and shoots passed the target and the target then scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Looks like the euro juiced up the thump a little bit tomorrow morning. It's gotten so much colder too at the sfc for tomorrow afternoon and evening since like 3 cycles ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC-CT Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Looks like the euro juiced up the thump a little bit tomorrow morning. It's gotten so much colder too at the sfc for tomorrow afternoon and evening since like 3 cycles ago. Any chance at some OES off the sound? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 12z Euro was a slight bump up across the whole area basically as it developed that meso low just NE of CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, JC-CT said: Any chance at some OES off the sound? Yeah it def wouldn't shock me. Not envisioning some heavy squall off the sound but it could easily be the type of thing where weenie flakes are falling later tonight for a few hours well before the main synoptic stuff...or maybe it gives the synoptic stuff a little "boost" in the beginning before winds turn more east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1/-18 at 1pm at 750ft MVL...that's pretty impressive. Struggling above zero even in the lower elevations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Meso scale aspects around my hood will be interesting. Intrigued to see how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Meso scale aspects around my hood will be interesting. Intrigued to see how it plays out. Your in a good spot to be the beneficiary of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, dryslot said: Your in a good spot to be the beneficiary of it I may get liquid for a time...but sometimes it's neat from a met standpoint to see how it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I'm not buying the meso depiction of light NE flow and temps 30-32 in interior NE MA. Take the under on that. Until later Saturday night of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 RPM which can have a bit of a torchy bias is a bit snowier for BOS compared to recent runs. And 4-6" for many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, CoastalWx said: I may get liquid for a time...but sometimes it's neat from a met standpoint to see how it works out. Backing the winds can be beneficial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 It seems to be the only interesting things from a modeling standpoint are taking place in eastern Mass and CT. For central and western MA, this seems like just noise adjustments than anything dramatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, dryslot said: Backing the winds can be beneficial Rack 'em and stack 'em up your way. Nice to have a good December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 25 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Meso scale aspects around my hood will be interesting. Intrigued to see how it plays out. Yup. Break out the RAP/HRRR and satellite imagery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, moneypitmike said: It seems to be the only interesting things from a modeling standpoint are taking place in eastern Mass and CT. For central and western MA, this seems like just noise adjustments than anything dramatic. Yup. Locked and loaded out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 i'm not sure... despite my own protestations i could see this still going confoundedly either way and flying in the face of either side's arguments - sure is offering a distraction in an otherwise dearth of fun weather. sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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