yoda Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Wasn't there a storm a little while ago that the GGEM/RGEM had a ice to rain scenario and we ended up getting a good amount of ice... it was a night to day storm... pretty sure it was either in Jan/Feb within the past 5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanWxFreak Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 do we get a 18z RGEM? and when people refer to the third NAM is that the DGEX replacement that runs at 3km? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: Of course the 2 other nam brothers back off on precip through 15z. lol. Chasing ghosts. In these scenarios, the higher resolution runs almost always verify more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, yoda said: Wasn't there a storm a little while ago that the GGEM/RGEM had a ice to rain scenario and we ended up getting a good amount of ice... it was a night to day storm... pretty sure it was either in Jan/Feb within the past 5 years feb 2014? lost power with that one. was definitely a northern areas storm though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, AmericanWxFreak said: do we get a 18z RGEM? and when people refer to the third NAM is that the DGEX replacement that runs at 3km? Yes we do have a 18z RGEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, yoda said: Wasn't there a storm a little while ago that the GGEM/RGEM had a ice to rain scenario and we ended up getting a good amount of ice... it was a night to day storm... pretty sure it was either in Jan/Feb within the past 5 years Feb 2014 I believe. I volunteer with a fire department in Carroll County and we got slammed with wires, wrecks, chimney fires and transformer fires. Parts of Manchester, Lineboro, Pleasant Valley, Thurmont and Parkton got nearly an inch of ice. Carroll County 911 received 6 times their daily call volume in under 6 hours I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, mappy said: feb 2014? lost power with that one. was definitely a northern areas storm though. I think that was the year... nice recall ETA: or in Jan as Eskimo posted above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, yoda said: I think that was the year... nice recall ETA: or in Jan as Eskimo posted above it was our first winter in Parkton, 70 inches of snow and a nasty ice storm. Hard to forget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, BTRWx said: In these scenarios, the higher resolution runs almost always verify more often. Yes, I think it's telling that the operational NAM nest (4 km), the parallel NAM nest (3 km), and the HRRR all show limited precip across DC Metro through mid-morning. That said, even a little bit of freezing rain with the cold surfaces will cause problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, Bob Chill said: Of course the 2 other nam brothers back off on precip through 15z. lol. Chasing ghosts. really? 3km still looks nasty IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 If we had a staunch high over Quebec and a bit of blocking to back it up, this would probably be a setup for a significant ice storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaEasternWX Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 I don't know if you guys noticed the same thing but for me high temperature busted. Supposed to get up to 26 as of the forecast and only 23.5 now. Maybe that is a signal for more ice then expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, high risk said: Yes, I think it's telling that the operational NAM nest (4 km), the parallel NAM nest (3 km), and the HRRR all show limited precip across DC Metro through mid-morning. That said, even a little bit of freezing rain with the cold surfaces will cause problems. True, and the time of day/night is favorable for least impacts for most people with the exception of the lesser of my generation. Can you request the fire nest to run? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, high risk said: Yes, I think it's telling that the operational NAM nest (4 km), the parallel NAM nest (3 km), and the HRRR all show limited precip across DC Metro through mid-morning. That said, even a little bit of freezing rain with the cold surfaces will cause problems. How much weight do you put on the RGEM being an outlier but being consistent the past few runs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3km NAM doesn't have my area hitting freezing until 17z. .5 qpf has fallen before then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, mappy said: 3km NAM doesn't have my area hitting freezing until 17z. .5 qpf has fallen before then 3k NAM would be a legit emergency, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, mappy said: really? 3km still looks nasty IMBY. Backed off south of I70. I only post irt to my yard. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interstate Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, mappy said: really? 3km still looks nasty IMBY. The cutoff is severe just south of Baltimore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high risk Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, mappy said: 3km NAM doesn't have my area hitting freezing until 17z. .5 qpf has fallen before then yeah, pretty spectacular gradient between DC and the Mason-Dixon line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, RidingTheModelWithMostSnow said: The cutoff is severe just south of Baltimore The cutoff is pretty close the subforum redistricting lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 1 minute ago, Bob Chill said: Backed off south of I70. I only post irt to my yard. lol dammit bob, think of me for a change. come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: 3k NAM would be a legit emergency, IMO the whole northern tier of counties would be quite icy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 RIP Thurmont/Emmitsburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, mappy said: RIP Thurmont/Emmitsburg That's a verrrry interesting looking precip map. I do wonder if that'll even come close to verifying. Regardless - looks pretty icy for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderdog Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, mappy said: RIP Thurmont The Mounties are quite resilient. A little ice is no big deal to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Just now, Kmlwx said: That's a verrrry interesting looking precip map. I do wonder if that'll even come close to verifying. Regardless - looks pretty icy for you! if it's correct. GFS wasn't nearly as gung-ho on the precip/ice amounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2Winston Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 What are the odds for even a little snow TV in the district at this point? I'd settle for a quick trace before the flip with ground frozen. Immediate stickage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 21 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said: 3k NAM would be a legit emergency, IMO LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTRWx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 Classic flip the script https://twitter.com/BigJoeBastardi/status/809864843390058497/photo/1?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=BigJoeBastardi&utm_content=809864843390058497 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristowWx Posted December 16, 2016 Share Posted December 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, CARDC79 said: What are the odds for even a little snow TV in the district at this point? I'd settle for a quick trace before the flip with ground frozen. Immediate stickage... Having lived in the region for 20 years under this type scenario I 'd say almost zero...it wiill be 4 am and stilll no precipitation south of BWI don't care what the RGEM says...this is a N MD and north show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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