powderfreak Posted December 20, 2016 Author Share Posted December 20, 2016 I'm curious if this will be a more widespread light snow event like the globals are indicating, or is it more tied to the terrain like the meso-scales are starting to indicate. Here's the 18z 4km NAM...zoomed in on Montreal as it does get the northern Greens in it. Its more of a dusting to 1" or maybe 2" for most of the elevations under 1,500ft...but has a good bit for the upslope regions. Even going to 0.4-0.6" for the Jay Peak area, with 0.3-0.4" for the Smuggs/Stowe area and probably Bolton. Also can see a nice weenie pocked near Bretton Woods for alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Left my snowcoverd, iced covered frozen tundra for a overnight trip down to Boston. No snowcover, sun 35F felt like another world. Reminds me why I love living up here where winter is real winter... (usually). Snowcover builds up steadily north of the Mass/NH line. Full winter mode north of Concord NH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 18 with clear skies and calm winds just before 10pm with a forecast low of 14. I'm going to take the under on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 5 hours ago, powderfreak said: I'm curious if this will be a more widespread light snow event like the globals are indicating, or is it more tied to the terrain like the meso-scales are starting to indicate. Here's the 18z 4km NAM...zoomed in on Montreal as it does get the northern Greens in it. Its more of a dusting to 1" or maybe 2" for most of the elevations under 1,500ft...but has a good bit for the upslope regions. Even going to 0.4-0.6" for the Jay Peak area, with 0.3-0.4" for the Smuggs/Stowe area and probably Bolton. Also can see a nice weenie pocked near Bretton Woods for alex. Sign me up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Torched our way to 43F today. Pretty mild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 18 hours ago, bobbutts said: 18 with clear skies and calm winds just before 10pm with a forecast low of 14. I'm going to take the under on that. What did you get to? Given the early radiational cooling followed by clouds, wind, and a fropa, then back down with CAA, I'm okay with 4 degrees (CON got to 10). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 18 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: What did you get to? Given the early radiational cooling followed by clouds, wind, and a fropa, then back down with CAA, I'm okay with 4 degrees (CON got to 10). I slept through the low and my thermometer while accurate is missing the feature to store anything, so it's a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I was just looking through my December data, and it’s going to be interesting to see where we end up with respect to average snowfall for the month. We’ve had 24.4” of snow on the month thus far, and it’s felt fairly snowy, but I think in part that’s simply due to the fact that the last three Decembers have been so abysmal. Another factor making it feel snow was the number if days with flakes - we actually went 17 straight days with some form of snowfall (Dec 3 – Dec 19). But, there haven’t been any large storms, so what we’ve had is really just keeping pace with average. There’s definitely some potential ahead (fairly dicey in some cases), but we’ll need at couple of at least moderate events, and/or a lot of upslope etc. if the month is going to end up pushing anywhere past average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 22 hours ago, powderfreak said: I'm curious if this will be a more widespread light snow event like the globals are indicating, or is it more tied to the terrain like the meso-scales are starting to indicate. Here's the 18z 4km NAM...zoomed in on Montreal as it does get the northern Greens in it. Its more of a dusting to 1" or maybe 2" for most of the elevations under 1,500ft...but has a good bit for the upslope regions. Even going to 0.4-0.6" for the Jay Peak area, with 0.3-0.4" for the Smuggs/Stowe area and probably Bolton. Also can see a nice weenie pocked near Bretton Woods for alex. Some of the higher res models have started to shift this south a little. I'm still skeptical that the spine gets greater than .5" qpf out of this. 10 days ago, the pattern was more favorable. Now I feel like we have a lot of low level southerly winds and not the same upper atm set-up. I'm feeling like this is really a 2-4" event. Not that 2-4" isn't fun. Or needed. I know that with 2-4" today and maybe another 1-3" on the 24th the tourons will be super happy as it will look like winter again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 27 minutes ago, adk said: Some of the higher res models have started to shift this south a little. I'm still skeptical that the spine gets greater than .5" qpf out of this. 10 days ago, the pattern was more favorable. Now I feel like we have a lot of low level southerly winds and not the same upper atm set-up. I'm feeling like this is really a 2-4" event. Not that 2-4" isn't fun. Or needed. I know that with 2-4" today and maybe another 1-3" on the 24th the tourons will be super happy as it will look like winter again. That's been my thoughts on this event the whole time...maybe a spot 5" amount somewhere up at 4000ft but its a 2-3/2-4" type deal I think. Saturday is starting to look better for a couple more inches of dense snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 18z models are looking a bit snowier for C NH. Looks like another biatch commute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 inch would be great, 2 would be a win, 3 would be naked snow angels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, dendrite said: 18z models are looking a bit snowier for C NH. Looks like another biatch commute. Yeah there's been spot 3s showing up on the models at 10:1 down your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, powderfreak said: Yeah there's been spot 3s showing up on the models at 10:1 down your way. Yeah he's either on the northern edge of the highest amounts, or southern edge, but either way he's in. Congrats Dendrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Sounds like just enough snow to hide the deadly-slick spots on the driveway. Sometimes I wish I had a snowmobile just to ride down to my mailbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 19 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Yeah he's either on the northern edge of the highest amounts, or southern edge, but either way he's in. Congrats Dendrite. 3 inches at 10:1 would give 4 inches. That would be naked running in the streets. Congrats me and Eek by the way too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 9 hours ago, mahk_webstah said: 3 inches at 10:1 would give 4 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Dudes I ain't trippin I got dendrites in my sky And they be rippin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 51 minutes ago, dendrite said: 3 inches in the 10:1 calculation lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 50 minutes ago, klw said: Dudes I ain't trippin I got dendrites in my sky And they be rippin Well done. Snowing nicely here with about an inch at 1500ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 after a quick inch and then a pause, snow picking up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1.4 inches of snow, 0.08 inches melted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Event totals: 0.6” Snow/0.06” L.E. Details from the 6:00 A.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 0.6 inches New Liquid: 0.06 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 10.0 Snow Density: 10,0% H2O Temperature: 30.7 F Sky: Light Snow (1-3 mm flakes) Snow at the stake: 5.5 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 2-3" on the mountain... actually its more like 2.5-3.0" and not elevation dependent at all. It seems very even based on the 3" at 3,000ft and 2.5" at 1,500ft with no real orographic enhancement...which makes sense with the synoptic level lift in this first burst. Looks like its more elevation dependent again down in the Mad River Valley though with 1-4" at Sugarbush so far. Here's 3000ft at 9:20am: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 27.1F light to moderate snow 2.25" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 up to 10 at my stake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 It was a good three though PF. Had some moisture with it so skied and bonded well with the hard surfaces. Should do a lot to the feel of the place heading into the holiday week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 25 minutes ago, adk said: It was a good three though PF. Had some moisture with it so skied and bonded well with the hard surfaces. Should do a lot to the feel of the place heading into the holiday week. Yeah I think we could add another 1-2" later and maybe with whatever upslope response we get. Its still snowing but only like quarter inch or less per hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Actually at 3" at the base now. There's very little elevational change in snowfall. Half inch at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Okay: Driveway advice being sought. Driveway at the new house is steep, paved, and about 80 yards long, on north side of hill, lots of trees. Last Saturday's mix left icy spots and some glacial like packed snow in spots. The last two nights I have not been able to get more than 3/4ths of the way up before sliding back down. Tonight I will get home to 2 to 3 inches of pristine snow on top of the offending ice. So: do I park at the bottom and clean off the snow in the hopes that the balance will melt or do I just drive on up and see if the snow gives me enough grip to make it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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