eyewall Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 2-3" So wouldn't take much..lol. He has 8" OTG.Haha that is true. It is back to 0 here through Jeffersonville with a few exceptions. It goes up quick at Smuggs.Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Haha that is true. It is back to 0 here through Jeffersonville with a few exceptions. It goes up quick at Smuggs.Sent from my VS987 using TapatalkCrazy. I assumed all of VT. had some snow OTG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Crazy. I assumed all of VT. had some snow OTG. Mainly the greens and east.Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 1 hour ago, backedgeapproaching said: Well, its official, my brother down in RIC VA has more snow OTG than me on Jan 7th. It happens a lot more than we'd like to think...can almost always find a spot during a coastal storm that has more snow than a lot of areas of NNE. I'll have to find the NWS BTV climate speak about snowstorms, but they used to have data online that showed we get a ton of light events compared to less frequency but much larger events the closer to get to the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 40 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Crazy. I assumed all of VT. had some snow OTG. This map below sums it up... I've got 6.5-7" of snow/ice my dog can walk on in the yard. We keep getting almost daily light dustings but nothing of significance at home since the freezing rain/rain early in the week. I've got no issues as my backyard is the least amount of snow I've seen in a couple weeks. I'm just more shocked at the west side and just how rapid the drop off is. I can't believe the Jeffersonville COOP at 1,100ft only has 5" of snow on the ground on the northwest side of Smugglers Notch/RT 108. It is only like 3 miles as the crow flies from my Barnes Camp plot on the southeast side of Smugglers Notch/RT 108 that has 18" of snow depth right now. Granted that spot is at 1,550ft but the difference is remarkable to me knowing that the drive in the summer does not take long at all. Basically one side of the RT 108 closure gate has 5" while the east side closure gate has 18". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 36 minutes ago, eyewall said: Mainly the greens and east. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk That surprised me, as well. Took a walk on the trails around my house today, and realized we have better cover than I though. The snowstake in the open area is about 8", but the woods seem more around 15", down to knee deep in spots (drifting?). This pattern is abysmal for us though, give me back my daily 1" of upslope and I'd be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 That surprised me, as well. Took a walk on the trails around my house today, and realized we have better cover than I though. The snowstake in the open area is about 8", but the woods seem more around 15", down to knee deep in spots (drifting?). This pattern is abysmal for us though, give me back my daily 1" of upslope and I'd be happyYeah as you can see I am triggered. The ski trip to Smuggs restored sanity for a few hours. Here it feels like last year with repeated lakes storms/cutters on the way.Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 minutes ago, alex said: That surprised me, as well. Took a walk on the trails around my house today, and realized we have better cover than I though. The snowstake in the open area is about 8", but the woods seem more around 15", down to knee deep in spots (drifting?). This pattern is abysmal for us though, give me back my daily 1" of upslope and I'd be happy That sounds right for 1,500ft. I mean its not overly deep here in Stowe Village but when I go get groceries or go to the bank or whatever there are snowbanks, everything is white, snow on the roof-tops, it looks like a ski town in winter with plastered mountains rising on both sides. Maybe after last winter my expectations have gone way down? But overall its a high liquid, low depth type snowpack at 5-7" in town but it rapidly increases with height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Anyway, a beautiful day on the slopes. Here myself and two coworkers are taking a run to do some inspections of quality and check in on lift operators to see if they need anything. I love when skis are a daily mode of transportation at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Anyway, a beautiful day on the slopes. Here myself and two coworkers are taking a run to do some inspections of quality and check in on lift operators to see if they need anything. I love when skis are a daily mode of transportation at work. Can't beat that!Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, powderfreak said: That sounds right for 1,500ft. I mean its not overly deep here in Stowe Village but when I go get groceries or go to the bank or whatever there are snowbanks, everything is white, snow on the roof-tops, it looks like a ski town in winter with plastered mountains rising on both sides. Maybe after last winter my expectations have gone way down? But overall its a high liquid, low depth type snowpack at 5-7" in town but it rapidly increases with height. We definitely haven't been getting the nice dumps you have, though. The nickel and dime stuff and the big Xmas storm did add up, however, although it's now very very crunchy and solid, especially the top layer. Our ski conditions are nowhere near Stowe, though. Might come up to Stowe for a weekend at the end of the month... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Is it petty of me to not even pop in to the obs thread? I'm not as negative as eyewall but it still bums me out to miss seemingly every snowfall. PF's magic dust has been reserved for a very small area around Mansfield and other high peaks. I still tell myself this is better than last year and indeed it is but it's not good by any means. Between burying my head in the sand about politics and the meh winter we are having, I need more distractions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 9 hours ago, eyewall said: Yeah as you can see I am triggered. The ski trip to Smuggs restored sanity for a few hours. Here it feels like last year with repeated lakes storms/cutters on the way. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk I actually can't like the contrast more. Plenty of snow in the Mtns, none down in the CPV = perfect for me. I dont' ski in the CPV so snow is just in the way here. Reminds me of 2011-2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, adk said: I actually can't like the contrast more. Plenty of snow in the Mtns, none down in the CPV = perfect for me. I dont' ski in the CPV so snow is just in the way here. Reminds me of 2011-2012. It makes your drive here easier every morning at 5am when its only snowing in the last 2 miles, ha. Looks like we get a widespread front end light to moderate snow with this next event...the WAA snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, adk said: I actually can't like the contrast more. Plenty of snow in the Mtns, none down in the CPV = perfect for me. I dont' ski in the CPV so snow is just in the way here. Reminds me of 2011-2012. I'm sure that many people in BTV feel the same way..snow in the Mtns and clear in the valley makes the day to day grind easier. On this board though, those thoughts are in the 1% on the pie chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, adk said: I actually can't like the contrast more. Plenty of snow in the Mtns, none down in the CPV = perfect for me. I dont' ski in the CPV so snow is just in the way here. Reminds me of 2011-2012. I can understand that way of looking at it but I definitely want to see it out my window. I am just asking for one warning event before the winter ends. I know normal for the year is a lot to ask for these days but I would just take one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Angel dust this morning. Beautiful but cold! -12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borderwx Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 -6F for us this AM, snow pack is stale but functional... Great weather for rink making, AM glass... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 Nice views to MWN today from Mansfield. Down in those fields somewhere is the MVL ASOS. Cold but sunny January day in Vermont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 4 hours ago, eyewall said: I can understand that way of looking at it but I definitely want to see it out my window. I am just asking for one warning event before the winter ends. I know normal for the year is a lot to ask for these days but I would just take one Many places in the Champlain Valley and southern Vermont need a 12-24 inch snowpack heading into March to help the water table recover from last year's moderate drought. Rain events on frozen soils look good in the annual water year report, but in reality they mask water deficits, as the rain can't get into the ground. If we enter the growing season with only 40 inches of snow (which would be double last year's in the CPV), we'll be setting the stage for another summer of low streamflow and lake levels. It's way too early to be a drought monger, but this winter's pattern isn't a whole lot different than 2014-2015 and 2015-2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, ApacheTrout said: Many places in the Champlain Valley and southern Vermont need a 12-24 inch snowpack heading into March to help the water table recover from last year's moderate drought. Rain events on frozen soils look good in the annual water year report, but in reality they mask water deficits, as the rain can't get into the ground. If we enter the growing season with only 40 inches of snow (which would be double last year's in the CPV), we'll be setting the stage for another summer of low streamflow and lake levels. It's way too early to be a drought monger, but this winter's pattern isn't a whole lot different than 2014-2015 and 2015-2016. Yeah that is going to be a big problem without question. We need a big turnaround and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 22 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Nice views to MWN today from Mansfield. Down in those fields somewhere is the MVL ASOS. Cold but sunny January day in Vermont. That's an incredible shot of MWN. Seems so close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 23 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Nice views to MWN today from Mansfield. Down in those fields somewhere is the MVL ASOS. This is one of those views I've seen in person but never seen captured like that.. Great shot, love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Light snow started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 9:35 AM, eyewall said: The Single Chair outlook for the remainder of the month looks pretty dismal. MRG really can't afford another awful season after last year. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk You are 40 min away from the best skiing in the Northeast, way too much complaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 minute ago, qg_omega said: You are 40 min away from the best skiing in the Northeast, way too much complaining I am not complaining about that. Believe me I have been enjoying solid conditions at Smuggs in the last month. I just want to see a good hit at home :). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, eyewall said: I am not complaining about that. Believe me I have been enjoying solid conditions at Smuggs in the last month. I just want to see a good hit at home :). Could be 6 inches or so on Tuesday not sure about valley but up in the mountains looks like a decent front end thump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Just now, qg_omega said: Could be 6 inches or so on Tuesday not sure about valley but up in the mountains looks like a decent front end thump It won't be 6 inches down here but yes the mountains could see that before the rain that is for sure. We will likely see an inch or two here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 a little Champlain lake-enhanced band this morning, possibly? A very confined band was just sorta sitting over Shelburne area for a while, now moving south, not as apparent in this loop. l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, ono said: a little Champlain lake-enhanced band this morning, possibly? A very confined band was just sorta sitting over Shelburne area for a while, now moving south, not as apparent in this loop. l Yes we have seen sand grain type flakes off and on throughout today. There is definitely a little Champlain enhancement ongoing. Not sure if anyone managed a dusting from it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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