eyewall Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 46 minutes ago, adk said: And the 18z HRRRRRRRRRRR has even less for VT by tomorrow 12z. Shifts the axis if heavy precip into central maine, even reduces what NH and western ME get. NWS is noting the delayed low development and east trend. I may have overreacted (what else is new?). As of 3pm BTV only reported 1.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, eyewall said: NWS is noting the delayed low development and east trend. I may have overreacted (what else is new?). As of 3pm BTV only reported 1.8. I bet the heavy snow is 25 miles east of where its modeled now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Pouring snow in downtown Barre. Can we be nearing 6"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 15 minutes ago, eyewall said: NWS is noting the delayed low development and east trend. I may have overreacted (what else is new?). As of 3pm BTV only reported 1.8. Well, there you go. You didn't miss anything expect the usual east shift where ORH can now clean up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 14 minutes ago, mreaves said: Pouring snow in downtown Barre. Can we be nearing 6"? Been doing decently well here too... banding or something has been riding up through town all afternoon. 4" or so eyeballing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adk Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 17 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Been doing decently well here too... banding or something has been riding up through town all afternoon. 4" or so eyeballing? Trough NWS spoke of shifted to Morrisville Stowe? Cause it ain't doing nothing here in BTV. Prob. 2.5-3? inches down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Seems like the Stowe-northward got a pretty steady 1"/hr average this afternoon- 3:00 reports were all 4", with snow starting 11:00-noon? Definitely looked like some enhancement along the spine. 6" of synoptic would be a really nice start to this event, and it seems like that could happen. got somewhere in the 2-2.5" in BTV. cleared half a board, and it piled up quickly, but the uncleared side saw very little gains. Lots of compaction with this stuff- pretty dense with temps hovering around 30°F. edit: measured around 3pm, we've picked up a bit more since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 The car bottom was dragging as I drove into the driveway. I'll try and get a picture after dinner. By the way, I wish Allenson was still posting here. I bet his area ends up doing relatively well. They seem to do well in these types of set ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, mreaves said: The car bottom was dragging as I drove into the driveway. I'll try and get a picture after dinner. By the way, I wish Allenson was still posting here. I bet his area ends up doing relatively well. They seem to do well in these types of set ups. Agreed, I do miss his obs from eastern VT. He had a sweet location too...radiated but was at like 1,300ft. His pics always looked sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 13 minutes ago, ono said: Seems like the Stowe-northward got a pretty steady 1"/hr average this afternoon- 3:00 reports were all 4", with snow starting 11:00-noon? Definitely looked like some enhancement along the spine. 6" of synoptic would be a really nice start to this event, and it seems like that could happen. got somewhere in the 2-2.5" in BTV. cleared half a board, and it piled up quickly, but the uncleared side saw very little gains. Lots of compaction with this stuff- pretty dense with temps hovering around 30°F. edit: measured around 3pm, we've picked up a bit more since. I'd say that's a pretty good average... it seemed like a steady 0.75"-1" per hour snowfall since about 11am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Just now, powderfreak said: Agreed, I do miss his obs from eastern VT. He had a sweet location too...radiated but was at like 1,300ft. His pics always looked sweet. We often had similar obs so it was nice to have my laissez faire attitude somewhat coborated by someone with a reasonably scientific mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Event totals: 4.1” Snow/0.26” L.E. We had to travel to Burlington today, and snow accumulations were certainly less out that way (probably a couple of inches in general around town) than here in the mountains, but one notable observation was just how little snow had fallen in Richmond area as of mid to late afternoon. It was considerably less than what Burlington had picked up, and I’d say it had to be an inch at most. Perhaps it’s due to downsloping in that area. Details from the 4:00 P.M. Waterbury observations: New Snow: 4.1 inches New Liquid: 0.26 inches Snow/Water Ratio: 15.8 Snow Density: 6.3% H2O Temperature: 30.0 F Sky: Light Snow (2-10 mm flakes) Snow at the stake: 7.0 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 That band does look setup Stowe/Morrisville through Belvidere/Eden just east of the spine. How about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Quick hitter all but done here. 5.8" came really in about 4-5 hours. Definitely some 2" per hour stuff for bursts in there, nice that it didn't happen form 1am-7am. Hoping for some backside Upslope scraps when the winds go NW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 6 hours ago, JLPhill said: Long time lurker with a quick question for the NNE crew: I'm thinking of taking a day trip up to Stratton for tomorrow, but am on the fence now, especially given trends of later storm development and QPF reduction to about .5-.75. Does Stratton have localized upslope effects that may overcome the lack of synoptic snowfall, or is that more of a phenomenon in the northern greens? Also, how much snow do you think would be necessary to provide enough cover to make for a decent day skiing? Recent snow reports make the current conditions seem dire. Thank you! If your looking for upslope like Stowe, Jay, etc..its not happening at Stratton. They can get some, but nothing like up North, they make their hay more with synoptic systems. They reported 6" at around 5pm, so depending on how it goes overnight, maybe they could squeeze out 10"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 57 minutes ago, powderfreak said: I'd say that's a pretty good average... it seemed like a steady 0.75"-1" per hour snowfall since about 11am. Yeah, it seems like something similar took place here at the house. Our forecast was for 2-4” today, and as of 6:00 P.M. the storm total is at 4.9”, so snowfall is certainly ahead of that daytime forecast here. I did notice that our point forecast for tonight is 2-4”, while it was 4-8” earlier, so that’s presumably in line with recent trends. Snowfall intensity is much lighter now, so I guess we’ll have to see what falls tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Heading out to measure in a few minutes...looks like the band finally fell apart. Eyeballing out the window it does look like it might be in the 5-6" range even but hard to tell. Pleasantly surprised. Was a nice (and somewhat odd north-south axis) that was dropping some good fluff. If you watch any larger radar loops from today, there definitely was an eastern slope enhancement all the way from southern VT to northern VT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 We could probably just re-name this thread the Vermont thread...lol. I feel like its called the NNE thread but we rarely hear from outside our VT circle. SE of the mountains in NNE is definitely more climo similar to SNE in regards to storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, J.Spin said: Event totals: 4.1” Snow/0.26” L.E. We had to travel to Burlington today, and snow accumulations were certainly less out that way (probably a couple of inches in general around town) than here in the mountains, but one notable observation was just how little snow had fallen in Richmond area as of mid to late afternoon. It was considerably less than what Burlington had picked up, and I’d say it had to be an inch at most. Perhaps it’s due to downsloping in that area. Its definitely due to downsloping...one of the reasons why I needed to get out of Jonesville after one year. Place is a snow pit in synoptic storms...and low elevation so it doesn't even get the western upslope as much as say the 800ft elevations of Nashville/West Bolton/Underhill/Jericho/etc. I saw a friend reported only 1.5" in Starksboro at 1,500ft about an hour ago. Its an immediate west slope location so the SE wind definitely hurt them...but surprising that even 1,500ft could get downsloped so much. I guess with 4,000ft elevations it doesn't really matter if you're on the wrong side of the mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 The snow seems to have wound down for now. 2.8 inches measured since 1:30 pm for a total of 5.3 inches. Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 51 minutes ago, powderfreak said: We could probably just re-name this thread the Vermont thread...lol. I feel like its called the NNE thread but we rarely hear from outside our VT circle. SE of the mountains in NNE is definitely more climo similar to SNE in regards to storms. 6 inches here in Lake George (Southern Adirondacks) not NNE but the upstate NY thread is more LES focused. 6 inches also at Gore Mountain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 26 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Its definitely due to downsloping...one of the reasons why I needed to get out of Jonesville after one year. Place is a snow pit in synoptic storms...and low elevation so it doesn't even get the western upslope as much as say the 800ft elevations of Nashville/West Bolton/Underhill/Jericho/etc. I saw a friend reported only 1.5" in Starksboro at 1,500ft about an hour ago. Its an immediate west slope location so the SE wind definitely hurt them...but surprising that even 1,500ft could get downsloped so much. I guess with 4,000ft elevations it doesn't really matter if you're on the wrong side of the mountains. On the downsloping topic, how much do you recall Stowe picking up from westerly flow events this year (or just south of west) this season? Wondering about downsloping east of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 5.5" at home at 7:15pm. Huge dendrites falling now. Massive snow growth. Not aggregates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Another oddity of the day... it looked like it was winding down and shutting off, but seems some moisture has filled back into central parts of northern VT (?) was this expected in the models? Expecting it to dry out, and then ramp back up after the turn W-NW with wraparound moisture. must be the edge of the coastal low bomb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 Yeah I think this is mostly light stuff...maybe 1-3" overnight. But these are some huge fluffy dendrites falling in Stowe right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ono Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 10 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Yeah I think this is mostly light stuff...maybe 1-3" overnight. But these are some huge fluffy dendrites falling in Stowe right now. This is a pretty fun event- just kinda "what'll it do next?" Any hope of a huge storm was short lived, and somewhat questionable. But this pattern has shaken out some surprises over the last 30 hours or so- looking back, this will probably be a decent stretch of snow (knock on wood). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 Agreed, I do miss his obs from eastern VT. He had a sweet location too...radiated but was at like 1,300ft. His pics always looked sweet.Whatever happened to that guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 1 hour ago, powderfreak said: We could probably just re-name this thread the Vermont thread...lol. I feel like its called the NNE thread but we rarely hear from outside our VT circle. SE of the mountains in NNE is definitely more climo similar to SNE in regards to storms. PF, lol...you don't hear from me cause I don't get nearly as much weather as you do. Yesterday at this time I was expecting this evening to be sitting by the window with popcorn watching blinding snow, wind and thundersnow. Instead just some mood flakes slowly coming down. I'll take my 7" from this storm and go quietly into 2017. Congrats to the Maine guys and now the SNE guys that are getting crazy snowfall rates with thunder and lightning. Next..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 34 minutes ago, Lava Rock said: Whatever happened to that guy? He had a kid and I guess he figured that took precedence. Go figure. About 6.5" here and lightly snowing again. PF said he thought maybe we could squeeze out another 1"-3". That would make this an ok event in my book. I'm happy with what we got but extra would be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted December 30, 2016 Share Posted December 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, mreaves said: He had a kid and I guess he figured that took precedence. Go figure. About 6.5" here and lightly snowing again. PF said he thought maybe we could squeeze out another 1"-3". That would make this an ok event in my book. I'm happy with what we got but extra would be even better. meh, i have 2 young kids, its ok if they miss a meal or two if your watching the Nam spit out big snow totals you know wont come to fruition Those 7" hr rates are off the charts they are getting in ME though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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