RyanDe680 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Stebo said: He should be back already, it is pointless to be gone this long. It's why you stay out of politics online period. Going off about anything political is ridiculous, especially when you try to assert your opinions on everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 40 minutes ago, Hoosier said: No, new thread if it's warranted. This snow season is off to a wild start, and quickly. On a side note, its cold outside. Hard to believe a month ago it was unseasonably warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 0z GFS ensembles with a wide range of solutions, but most have a significant event.The 0z GGEM was probably the most significant overall run yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Chicago Storm said: 0z GFS ensembles with a wide range of solutions, but most have a significant event. The 0z GGEM was probably the most significant overall run yet. 0z GEFS MSLP spread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugHillMatt Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Nice looking runs. If it plays out, there will be nice snow cover across much of the Midwest. Nice as in more than just an inch or two scattered about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 As usual, the EPS/ECMWF is leading the way in terms of 0z 4-5 day CONUS SLP verification over the last month(Order is EPS-->ECMWF-->GEFS/UKIE-->GFS). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 A little early to get into ratios but in general, at least the initial WAA snows could be pretty good in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 0z EURO looks weaker than the 12z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Also some pretty impressive early cold coming, post snowfall. Seems ovedone but below 0 this far south this early is nonetheless impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, snowlover2 said: 0z EURO looks weaker than the 12z run. It's somewhat GFS like on this run. So they've sort of converged for the time being after being pretty far apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Euro not quite as impressive as the 12z version, but the sharp cutoff in snow remains right through the heart of the DMX/DVN cwas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 It's somewhat GFS like on this run. So they've sort of converged for the time being after being pretty far apart.Definitely took a huge jump towards the GFS solution, though doesn't quite get there fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Chicago Storm said: Definitely took a huge jump towards the GFS solution, though doesn't quite get there fully. The main piece is still the second vort, it just doesn't amplify this run. If that remains to be the case with the second vort being the main show, then the bigger potential is still there. Just need a bit of a buckle in the pattern for it to amplify a touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 off topic: Does anybody have a subscription to Eurowx.com? I was thinking of signing up. I was wondering how the billing goes. PM me if you could give useful information on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 12z NAM coming in with the two wave idea. Not fully there yet for a significant event, but getting closer.The initial wave is is still much further north than other guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Sorry for the OT, but decided to check out the Off Topic forum to see what all the fuss was about. <rant> Holy f%%k - what a sh*t show. Some comments made in there, by people from our region, that changed my opinion of them. Not the fact based political statements but just the personal attacks on others. Seriously - it's a freaking weather forum. Why the hell would you come here to spew/read that crap. </rant> Again, sorry to bring that in here but had to vent a little bit. So frustrating to see that... Anyway, here's to hoping for a nice thump this weekend into early next week. I find it interesting how the globals are handling the piece of energy coming in from the pacific - will be fun to track over the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanDe680 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 12z GFS hasn't really changed the main axis swath, but does spread the wealth a bit south and increases overall totals a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roon Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The NAM just seems to be ignoring everyone else and is just doing it's own thing with the northern solution. NAM don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huronicane Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 9 hours ago, Chinook said: off topic: Does anybody have a subscription to Eurowx.com? I was thinking of signing up. I was wondering how the billing goes. PM me if you could give useful information on this. Check your PMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Second wave on the GFS coming in much stronger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 GFS with a foot+ area from NC Iowa through N IL towards Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 The subtle waves in the flow are really giving the models trouble. This new GFS run looks like yesterday's 12z Euro and last night's CMC. Meanwhile, last night's Euro went back toward the old GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxMatt21 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said: Second wave on the GFS coming in much stronger Would like to see that low a little further south. In N. Indiana we get almost a foot of snow, followed by rain, followed by a little more snow. Plenty of time for things to change, I suppose. Is it too much to ask to remain snow through the whole event?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillsdaleMIWeather Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 LOCK IT IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 If this sort of solution works out, it's pretty much two separate events. Each are decent to sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveNay Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, dilly84 said: 11 hours ago, HillsdaleMIWeather said: 0Z GFS another spread the wealth situation, and closer looking to the Euroi may sound dumb, but how the hell do you get the zoomed in county map on pivotal. I've tried everything to no avail. Zoom->Regional->Click on North America->Select Midwest (works for GFS model...others are different) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King James Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 17 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said: GFS with a foot+ area from NC Iowa through N IL towards Detroit. I'm a little SE of you closer to the lake. We've been sitting pretty for a the last couple of days regarding this system. Guy on the radio said this weekend's system won't be much but might send us to double digit totals for the season. I took that to mean 3 inches. Are you taking the over on that or is it still too early to make a call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye_wx Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Canadian is about the same as last night, has the first wave farther south across middle of Iowa, then solid (but not as strong as 00z) second wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 20 minutes ago, King James said: I'm a little SE of you closer to the lake. We've been sitting pretty for a the last couple of days regarding this system. Guy on the radio said this weekend's system won't be much but might send us to double digit totals for the season. I took that to mean 3 inches. Are you taking the over on that or is it still too early to make a call? It's early, but I would pound the over on 3". In fact, I would pound the over on 6". With this guidance, I would stick a O/U at something like 8.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chances14 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 42 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said: GFS with a foot+ area from NC Iowa through N IL towards Detroit. FYI. would need to take about 3-5 inches off that for SW and NW michigan as it includes some lake effect snow before the storms in question. still an impressive though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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